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RobertPaulson 01-26-2015 11:48 PM

been using turtle wax ice for almost 6 years now, my father turned me onto it and i was super skeptical at first, but his cars always looked amazing. So one day I took him up on the offer to try it out, firstly, its super easy to put on, secondly you don't have to worry about applying it on your black plastic trim (or rubber). You're actually encouraged to do it to protect the trim. I've even used it on my window (as if it was rain-x) and i don't even need to use my wipers when it rains.

beatgenie 01-27-2015 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by notout86 (Post 2106407)
Next time you speak to one of the detailers you know, would you ask what they don't like about T/W and post here. Is it "Wash & Wax" they don't like or just the Wax. I like the "Wash & Wax" as it is so easy.

I tried the "Wax" and found it VERY difficult to get off the green stuff once it had dried. It took ages and I did not like having to rub when I had been used to others that pretty much brushed off. I hurled it in the bin.

Will do. I've never tried it before so I can't really speak on it myself. I just trusted their word.

beatgenie 01-27-2015 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by billyk (Post 2106424)
Any chance your detailer friends are thinking of the old, classic Turtle Wax? I can't speak to that product - haven't used it in 40 years.

Turtle Wax Ice is a relatively new product line, unlike any previous product from them. Check the reviews on Amazon. It's a different type of product than Collinite - it's not a traditional Carnauba wax - and it's pretty amazing, IMO.

Try it!

They probably are talking about the older stuff. I've never even heard of the "Ice" wax. I only seen the green colored containers whenever I went to Walmart or Target. But I will definitely check it out, maybe I can toss it in the mix as an in-between quick wax.

notout86 01-27-2015 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by beatgenie (Post 2106533)
They probably are talking about the older stuff. I've never even heard of the "Ice" wax. I only seen the green colored containers whenever I went to Walmart or Target. But I will definitely check it out, maybe I can toss it in the mix as an in-between quick wax.

I see that we may not be comparing apples with apples. The green stuff that I did not like was in a clear green glass? bottle, inverted conical shape with a large screwcap and sounds like old stuff. The concensus on the "Ice" version seems
very positive. I like that it can be applied to everything including rubber. I will try

billyk 01-28-2015 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by notout86 (Post 2106776)
I see that we may not be comparing apples with apples. The green stuff that I did not like was in a clear green glass? bottle, inverted conical shape with a large screwcap and sounds like old stuff. The concensus on the "Ice" version seems
very positive. I like that it can be applied to everything including rubber. I will try

Report back!

swarb 01-29-2015 12:40 AM

turtle wax liquid wax or spray wax? not the same? which is the one to get?

billyk 01-29-2015 07:03 AM

Turtle Wax Ice has some confounding names between two products and on Amazon, you'll find some reviewers complaining that "the product has changed" when in fact they just bought the wrong one.

The TW Ice Liquid Wax is the product I've used. It goes on/comes off really easy and can be used on everything - def not your Father's TW. Here's a link:

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Turtle-Wax-T-468R-ICE-Liquid/dp/B007KTINZI/ref=sr_1_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1422529512&sr= 1-2&keywords=turtle+wax+liquid+ice"]Amazon.com: Turtle Wax T-468R ICE Liquid Wax - 14 oz.: Automotive[/ame]


TW Ice Spray Wax gets crazy reviews on every site I've visited, so I bought it but have yet to use it. Reportedly, it's super fast - just spray/wipe and users find they can apply this after every wash since it takes so little time to do. Really looking forward to using this stuff. Gotta wait for this crappy Winter weather to ease up.

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007KTINWQ/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1"]Amazon.com: Turtle Wax T-477R ICE Spray Wax - 20 oz.: Automotive[/ame]

Kotu100 01-29-2015 12:07 PM

Does anyone have any issues with the ice leaving a greasy type residue after its wiped?
I used it once years ago when it 1st came out and wasn't a fan because of this "greasiness".

billyk 01-29-2015 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kotu100 (Post 2110187)
Does anyone have any issues with the ice leaving a greasy type residue after its wiped?
I used it once years ago when it 1st came out and wasn't a fan because of this "greasiness".

Haven't seen that. A clean, good quality MF cloth removes everything with little effort. No streaks, swirls, grease/slime, nothing. And that's in cool weather in bright sunshine.

billyk 02-08-2015 04:41 PM

Finally got a day in MD near 50 degrees. Washed my FRS and had a little time to try the Turtle Wax Ice Spray Wax I mentioned earlier in this thread.

I can see why there are so many awesome reviews for this product - I got excellent results in almost no time. After washing, it was really a spray on/wipe off experience. It took just under 30 minutes to completely wax my FRS. That's amazing. Next time, it'll be less as I got quicker as I went along.

There's some chance that the results I got were b/c I previously use TW Ice Liquid Wax - don't know. But the finish is great - deep color, super mirror shine, water beads like crazy. I am sure that the Liquid Wax is more robust, but this might be a good in-between product for me.

So far, I am a fan. When products are this easy/fast to use, affordable, and have such awesome results, it makes it far more likely that I'll use them more often.

KalbiCool88 02-20-2015 07:05 PM

P&S Ultracoat Wax

billyk 03-10-2015 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by billyk (Post 2123680)
Finally got a day in MD near 50 degrees. Washed my FRS and had a little time to try the Turtle Wax Ice Spray Wax I mentioned earlier in this thread.

I can see why there are so many awesome reviews for this product - I got excellent results in almost no time. After washing, it was really a spray on/wipe off experience. It took just under 30 minutes to completely wax my FRS. That's amazing. Next time, it'll be less as I got quicker as I went along.

There's some chance that the results I got were b/c I previously use TW Ice Liquid Wax - don't know. But the finish is great - deep color, super mirror shine, water beads like crazy. I am sure that the Liquid Wax is more robust, but this might be a good in-between product for me.

So far, I am a fan. When products are this easy/fast to use, affordable, and have such awesome results, it makes it far more likely that I'll use them more often.

Follow up to my previous post...

It's been a month of non-stop wicked-cold weather here in MD, which results in a month of crap building-up on my FRS.

Yesterday the temps magically rose to 55 degrees and I got out to do a quick wash before the temps drop again. Have to report that the Turtle Wax ICE Liquid wax applied months back, bolstered by the ICE Spray wax a month back continues to provide amazing shine, color depth and water beading. After just a wash it looks like I just waxed it. I was going to do another application of Spay Wax, but frankly, it didn't need it.

Continuing to be super impressed with the ICE products from TW. The glass and plastic trim treated with ICE also look amazing.

babydriver 03-11-2015 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by billyk (Post 2162911)
Follow up to my previous post...

It's been a month of non-stop wicked-cold weather here in MD, which results in a month of crap building-up on my FRS.

Yesterday the temps magically rose to 55 degrees and I got out to do a quick wash before the temps drop again. Have to report that the Turtle Wax ICE Liquid wax applied months back, bolstered by the ICE Spray wax a month back continues to provide amazing shine, color depth and water beading. After just a wash it looks like I just waxed it. I was going to do another application of Spay Wax, but frankly, it didn't need it.

Continuing to be super impressed with the ICE products from TW. The glass and plastic trim treated with ICE also look amazing.

I have to agree with the last part. I used the Ice spray on my side view mirrors and the results were amazing. These mirrors get filthy fast. I have been using glass cleaner on them but still was not happy with the results. One application of ICE and they looked better than new; they were highly reflective and worked beautifully.

I tried a little on the windshield but didn't like those results. Once it rained, the wiper blades caused smearing and streaking from the wax. I will stick to using glass cleaner on the front.

:)

notout86 05-02-2015 04:55 AM

reporting back as requested
 
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Originally Posted by billyk (Post 2109633)
Report back!

Hi billyk. I have just treated with Turtle Wax Ice liquid wax T-468R. We shall see how it is holding up as time goes by.

I am dubious about the consistency of the milky product and before I follow up with the makers, I would appreciate if you, and anyone else on this thread, noticed very small lumps in it. I suspect they may be the carnauba wax improperly dispersed. If that is the case the wax would not be evenly spread on the paint unless you rubbed hard and it is about the hardest wax you can get.

I am coming from the position of a person experienced in compounding pharmaceutical creams/emulsions and ointments. These are made with "optimal dispersion" whereby you preferably disperse solids at a molecular level so for the wax you would have it dissolved in some solvent and disperse that solution as droplets in an emulsion. On the paint the droplets would be spread and break down , freeing the wax molecules and they are spread at a molecular level. TW Ice is certainly an emulsion as it will mix with water.

Often, separation occurs, so you shake before use. The TW Ice does not say that, but I did.

Would you shake first and pour a little out and feel for lumps with your finger. I would describe mine as almost feeling gritty. If yours is smooth then I will return my unused portion.


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