Recently I found an old bottle of Turtle Wash'n'Wax i.e simply washing with it is supposed to wax it at the same time. I just diluted it to double the strength with rainwater,in a clean oil collector pan and painted it lightly all over the car with very soft nylon broom. I ensured it had no chance to dry and painted all over again. When I say "paint" I mean NEVER rubbing/pressing. The first coat soaks into & loosens the dirt and the second pass shifts it. Agitate the broom in the solution to let solid dirt drop out.
Still wet, I flooded rainwater onto the highest surfaces downwards to the lowest to wash off the solution and dirt.
Finally I towelled the glass dry.... only the glass.
I must say that I was pleasantly surprised. I allowed the paint to dry on its own and there was no spotting or streaking.

When the paint was dry I was curious to see if the wax had coated the paint so I placed a dry towel on the roof and drew it across under its own weight and indeed the the surface
was slippery as you only get if there is wax present.

Easily the fastest wash ever for me.
I am not sure if having the wax component included with the wash component has anything to do with it but bugs seemed to come off much more easily than usual too.

Water on the paint does not bead like it does after the usual waxing but I have used this method 4 times now and am yet to find a downside.

I can appreciate that there are more expensive waxes than Turtle Wax Ice - I've used Zaino in the past, which was considered an excellent product 10 years ago (maybe still is??).

But I gotta say, the TW Ice Liquid Wax is simply amazing, and it's the same price point as similar Meguiar's products, which I also like a lot.

For me, "amazing" means that application of TW Ice is way easier than any other product I've used in 45 years. Easy on/easy off and it goes on everything - no white crap left behind. The appearance is easily as good, or better than other waxes, and at nearly a month now, it it protecting every bit as good as Day 1. I am very impressed.

Products like TW Ice Liquid Wax (and Meguiar's products) are probably not as protective on a long-term basis as other, more expensive and harder-to apply waxes. But, it's 2015, and it's awesome that car products have really come a looooong way from the days where there were two groups: "cheap/bad" products and "expensive/good" products.

So, I really don't agree with the blanket statement that affordable TW Ice/Meguiar's products are to be avoided.

I've been a long time user of Meguire's carnuba based wax (both quick wax and traditional paste).

I started using Turtle Wax Ice back in September.

I can say without a doubt the TW Ice is easier to apply, lasts longer, and does a better job of protecting my paint and keeping is slick as ice.

The Turtle Wash'n'Wax I referred to in post #43 must be at least 20 years old as I think I inherited it from my ex-dad R.I.P. I will replace with the modern "Ice" version.

I also used a product called STP something or other from a Reject shop years ago. It was thick stuff and non runny like tomato sauce and fluoro green color. You
washed and dried the car then smeared it lovingly all over everything with your hand, including glass, plastic, rubber and metal and let it dry. Then you just squirted it off with a strong jet of water from a hose (no rubbing at all) and towelled off the droplets. It beaded well but I have seen better. Afterwards, the dry paint was so slippery the plastic bottle would not stay on the roof... it slipped off. I am not kidding and nothing else I've tried has ever been that slippery. Similarly a dry towel seemed to be repelled off the paint and felt like it was floating over it. ? electrostatic repulsion? It neither attracted or repelled dust. The effect would last a few weeks. It smelt slightly of hydrocarbons so I guess they were in the product as an emulsion, so while the stuff was still wet it would loosen/dissolve lipophilic dirt which would be washed away when you squirted it off. Hydrocarbons are somewhat rugged on rubber (which waxes rarely tell you) but they clearly stated to put it on everything. If anyone knows the formula I'd like to know... I asked STP and received no answers.

Another vote for Turtle Wax Ice. Great product!

A really good, easy wax is Eagle One Nanowax. Also not expensive. It's supposed to be some sort of ground up, "microfibre" carnauba wax. Still, it's not costly and the shine is excellent.

I switched to Meguiar's Gold Class Carnauba Plus last weekend and the results were better, but the Nanowax does a great job and is just drop dead easy to apply. I use it now for touch up. The Meguiar's has more depth and intensity overall. The slightly yellowish tinge of the Meguiar's just makes the Hot Lava paint explode with color!

That was used on your '57 T-Bird, right?

I try to do a once a quarter wax with Kitt brand, I really like that stuff. Then every few weeks I use meguires quik wax, which really seems to hold up well for how easy it is. I haven't used any wax in about two months and it was still beading up nicely.

Every time I wax it though I get a little more insane with all the nicks and cuts in this terrible subaru paint. Seriously, invest in a good Suntek clear bra. I kick myself every day for not biting the bullet on that the first week I got it.

I aim to wash every week, wax every 4 weeks, and clay/ironx/polish/seal/wax every 6 months. I use Menzerna Power Lock for sealant and Pinnacle Liquid Souveran for wax, both applied with PC 7424xp, and love the shine on my CWP.

Oh I wish I had a 57 Bird!
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I always avoided Turtle Wax....every detailer I know refers to it as trash.

I was recently put onto Collinite 845. Good stuff....seems to stay on pretty strong for a few months although I try to wax once a month. And I use a Chemical Guys quick detail/wax spray in between.

Next time you speak to one of the detailers you know, would you ask what they don't like about T/W and post here. Is it "Wash & Wax" they don't like or just the Wax. I like the "Wash & Wax" as it is so easy.

I tried the "Wax" and found it VERY difficult to get off the green stuff once it had dried. It took ages and I did not like having to rub when I had been used to others that pretty much brushed off. I hurled it in the bin.

Any chance your detailer friends are thinking of the old, classic Turtle Wax? I can't speak to that product - haven't used it in 40 years.

Turtle Wax Ice is a relatively new product line, unlike any previous product from them. Check the reviews on [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Turtle-Wax-T-468R-ICE-Liquid/dp/B007KTINZI"]Amazon[/ame]. It's a different type of product than Collinite - it's not a traditional Carnauba wax - and it's pretty amazing, IMO.

Try it!

Yup - you are referring to the old, green stuff.

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Turtle-Wax-T-468R-ICE-Liquid/dp/B007KTINZI/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1422325960&sr= 1-1&keywords=turtle+wax+ice+liquid+wax"]TW Ice Liquid Wax[/ame] is a new formulation - nothing to do with the old product. It's a white-ish liquid that goes on super fast and wipes off just as fast. It results in a deep shine that beads up like crazy. Plus, it goes on everything - paint, plastic, glass - everything, no nasty white residue on black trim and it does amazing things to all of these surfaces.

If you are into carnauba-based waxes, that's great. But thankfully, these days there are alternatives that are super easy/fast to use that provide wonderful results.