You make a valid point.. Wax just smears over the clear coat.. It's not like the old days where you needed to feed the paint..
Use a polymer based wax.. It bonds to the clear coat surface..

I tried Turtle Wax Ice Liquid Wax for the first time a few weeks back after reading posts like this. It was the first wax for my FRS after about a month of ownership. I was very impressed in the ease of application and although it's only been a few weeks since, the protection is very obviously still in full force. Amazing stuff IMO.

Thanks to those in this thread on the heads-up on TW Ice products. Can't wait to use the Liquid Wax again. I've since purchased the Spray Wax based on really enthusiastic reviews. Looking forward to using that between Liquid Wax applications.

Best car wax ever ;)

Many say it's on par or outlasts traditional pastes (even highly rated ones). My experiences, the fingernail slickness, lasts at least a few months, maybe +3 months... much longer than each car wash interval (2wks-1month), and easily done after a wash. It's very easy to put off traditional waxing because of the effort/work/laziness..but not with OCW.

Turtle WAX ICE has to be ICE!!!!

and when i feel fancy i use Mequires

The ICE between wash detailer spray is great stuff as well. It doesn't seem to build up like some sprays can.
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When looking into the Ice products, there was considerable confusion between the various "wax" products. In some cases, buyers criticized an Ice product for having "changed" but they actually were comparing two different products. You kinda have to use the product numbers to get it right.

I love the [ame="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007KTINZI/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1"]Liquid Wax[/ame]


The highest rated Ice product is the [ame="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007KTINWQ/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1"]Spray Wax[/ame], of which there is more than one. This is the one that has a closely-related product, a "Synthetic" spray wax that is not as highly-rated.

Turtle Wax products sure have come a long way since the old days.

A week after I bought my Release 1.0 I applied Blackfire Wet Diamond paint protection and then a few weeks later I used Chemical Guys XXX Hardcore Carnauba Paste Wax. I'm very happy with the results. Should be good until Spring.

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Chemical guy for me

just switched to Sonax Polymer net shiled about 2 months back, water beads like crazy

havent touched the car since

http://www.detailersdomain.com/SONAX...ld-_p_814.html

I use menzerna powerlock with great results.

I used to be a Meguair's user (good stuff too)...then I switched to Optimum (quality stuff that really works).

Now, Optimum is my fave brand..for almost everything - ONR, OPC, OCW, Hyper Polish/Compound, Leather Cleaner/Conditioner, etc.

I first started with ONR, loved it and was impressed... then tried, OCW, loved that too and was amazed by both of those products. Then, I tried one more of their diff products, a new one to me, one after the other, and it was always the same result - I always got surprised how each product I've newly tested, amazed me and impressed me. Very weird for a company to come out with not just 1 or 2 very good products, but almost all their products are impressive (their claybar alternative, however, sucks).

The only thing I get that's not Optimum is the Nanoskin Autoscrub sponges/towels. Probably the best claybar currently (for ease/quickness of use, tactile response and reusability).

That's all you need :)

didn't really read through all the posts, but you should really avoid using cheaper waxes like Turtle Wax.

More expensive waxes $60+ have higher carnuba content. The carnuba really gives your car the pop you're looking for with wax. If you're more concerned about protection rather than looks, go with a sealant. Sealants are cheaper and lasts longer. Waxes last up to 3 months, but i'd say it starts wearing off around a month if it's exposed to the daily environment.

I get great results using Dodo Juice

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here's my fb page if you want to see more pics
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I like the Meguiars Ultimate paste wax along with the ultimate detailer for those nasty bird droppings. I do wax about twice a month so i'm not sure about how long it can last, but i can say it lasts for two weeks! haha