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Prog 09-08-2013 03:53 PM

How do these cars do in the winter?
 
Hey guys, I'm currently in the south, but am planning on moving to southern New Hampshire in a couple years. I plan on getting an FR-S within the next year. I just wanted to know if these cars can handle snow okay with winter tires. I know they have low ground clearance all all-wheel drive is best in those conditions, but I know a bunch of people up there that are fine without AWD and just only drive after the plows go through. Just trying to plan for the future and see if I will need to get a winter beater or something. Thanks!

Turbowned 09-08-2013 04:48 PM

SEARCH PLEASE.

Please? Come on.

Yes, they're fine. Buy snow tires. And use the search button. Kthxbai

WRXGuy1 09-08-2013 06:21 PM

It's horrible in the snow if you plan to drive it during or immediately after a snowstorm if there's more than a dusting on the roads. I had studless snow tires and even on slight inclines I couldn't start from a stop, I had to back up and get running starts. I live just west of Manchester so it's a little further north with more hills, and even though I made it most days it was not a fun experience.

SammyB 09-08-2013 07:52 PM

I got my car in March, and the day after I got it, we got a mild snow storm. It was more slush. I drove in it with the stock Michelin Primacy HP tires on, and I did okay. I think snow tires will help out a lot. First day I drove it was still snowing, and I was doing back roads. I did fine, didn't have the tail kick out on me or anything.

Next day, roads weren't plowed very well, and as I got onto the on ramp, I hit a big pile a slush/snow at maybe 45mph, and did have the tail kick out on me slightly for a second. Little bit of counter steer, and I was fine.

I was unfamiliar with the car, having only driven in from the dealer to my house the day before the storm, so less than 5 miles. I feel like now, after nearly 12,000 miles, and with snow tires, it'll be nothing.

WRXGuy1 09-08-2013 09:58 PM

It really depends on where exactly you'll be, if you're in central/eastern Mass you're fine as it's warmer in the winter with less snow and very few hills compared to western Mass or northern/western NH.

rbizzle004 09-08-2013 10:03 PM

It all depends on how good you are of a driver. In deep snow staring from a stop you may need to rock it. I drove it in southern WI last winter with no issues. I have snow tires and did get stuck in the parking lot due to a snow storm and deep snow but I was able to rock it out. But I'm also used to driving rear wheel cars ( Crown Vic, Charger) in the snow with none to little issues.

Takumi788 09-08-2013 10:20 PM

From a guy that prefers RWD cars in the winter and has driven both a convertible 240sx and a FC3S through ruff CNY winters, this car is pretty bad in the winter. Dont know why but my FC3S with 235 series summer tires did better that the FRS and i only drove the FRS through less than a month of winter...Suggestion buy a cheap winter rat.

Also in NY the bastards use salt to melt the ice on the roads which rusts the crap out of your car quickly. Not sure about NH but beware.

joop1987 09-08-2013 11:36 PM

With Blizzak WS70 snow tires the FR-S goes through most snow here in NJ. (As long as it don't bottom out). Add some weight in the trunk for the heavy storms. But we don't have hills here.

I also drive my previous car; 2002 Mustang GT, with Blizzaks and had no problems.

mpicher 09-09-2013 07:44 AM

The thing to remember about snow in New England is that our road crews are used to dealing with it. You get a foot of snow on one day and the roads are clear the next... not like down south where it would cripple an area for 4 or 5 days.

That being said, the crap we put on the roads to deal with salt does bad things to all cars. IMHO, buy a $2000 beater winter car/pickup and put your good car up for the winter.

Prog 09-09-2013 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WRXGuy1 (Post 1197935)
It's horrible in the snow if you plan to drive it during or immediately after a snowstorm if there's more than a dusting on the roads. I had studless snow tires and even on slight inclines I couldn't start from a stop, I had to back up and get running starts. I live just west of Manchester so it's a little further north with more hills, and even though I made it most days it was not a fun experience.

I don't really plan on driving during/immediately after a snow storm, but mother nature probably won't give me a choice. :P

Do you know if they salt the roads in NH? I'll probably be somewhere within 30 minutes of Dover, but not sure yet. Definitely southern NH though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SammyB (Post 1198123)
I got my car in March, and the day after I got it, we got a mild snow storm. It was more slush. I drove in it with the stock Michelin Primacy HP tires on, and I did okay. I think snow tires will help out a lot. First day I drove it was still snowing, and I was doing back roads. I did fine, didn't have the tail kick out on me or anything.

Next day, roads weren't plowed very well, and as I got onto the on ramp, I hit a big pile a slush/snow at maybe 45mph, and did have the tail kick out on me slightly for a second. Little bit of counter steer, and I was fine.

I was unfamiliar with the car, having only driven in from the dealer to my house the day before the storm, so less than 5 miles. I feel like now, after nearly 12,000 miles, and with snow tires, it'll be nothing.

I've never driven in snow before, so I'm not really sure what to expect. I know high horsepower and/or performance tires don't do well, but the FR-S is not high horsepower and I could always put winter tires on it. That doesn't solve the problem of it being low, though.

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Originally Posted by rbizzle004 (Post 1198347)
It all depends on how good you are of a driver. In deep snow staring from a stop you may need to rock it. I drove it in southern WI last winter with no issues. I have snow tires and did get stuck in the parking lot due to a snow storm and deep snow but I was able to rock it out. But I'm also used to driving rear wheel cars ( Crown Vic, Charger) in the snow with none to little issues.

Were those cars okay in the snow? I'm a decent driver, but completely inexperienced in snow driving (it doesn't snow where I live). I don't plan on getting rid of my Camaro, and I've heard it can do okay in the snow with the right tires (it's the 312 HP V6, not the 426 HP V8). I was considering getting the undercarriage coated and seeing how all-weather/winter tires do on it, but at that price, I may also be better buying a beater.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpicher (Post 1198890)
The thing to remember about snow in New England is that our road crews are used to dealing with it. You get a foot of snow on one day and the roads are clear the next... not like down south where it would cripple an area for 4 or 5 days.

That being said, the crap we put on the roads to deal with salt does bad things to all cars. IMHO, buy a $2000 beater winter car/pickup and put your good car up for the winter.

Would it help to get the undercarriage coated? I bought a 240sx from a guy in Pennsylvania and the undercarriage was completely rust free because he'd had it coated. It looks to be a good idea, but I imagine it would cost a couple/few grand.

Books 09-09-2013 02:52 PM

2 things:

1. Have you driven in snow before? If not, it's going to suck so take it easy your first time.

2. Get some snow tires and you'll be fine.

This was over winter with some Blizzaks:
http://i.imgur.com/LoajCc6.jpg

Prog 09-09-2013 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Books (Post 1199717)
2 things:

1. Have you driven in snow before? If not, it's going to suck so take it easy your first time.

2. Get some snow tires and you'll be fine.

This was over winter with some Blizzaks:
http://i.imgur.com/LoajCc6.jpg

1) No.

2) Cool beans, good to know. :happy0180:

WRXGuy1 09-09-2013 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prog (Post 1199299)
I don't really plan on driving during/immediately after a snow storm, but mother nature probably won't give me a choice. :P

Do you know if they salt the roads in NH? I'll probably be somewhere within 30 minutes of Dover, but not sure yet. Definitely southern NH though.



I've never driven in snow before, so I'm not really sure what to expect. I know high horsepower and/or performance tires don't do well, but the FR-S is not high horsepower and I could always put winter tires on it. That doesn't solve the problem of it being low, though.



Were those cars okay in the snow? I'm a decent driver, but completely inexperienced in snow driving (it doesn't snow where I live). I don't plan on getting rid of my Camaro, and I've heard it can do okay in the snow with the right tires (it's the 312 HP V6, not the 426 HP V8). I was considering getting the undercarriage coated and seeing how all-weather/winter tires do on it, but at that price, I may also be better buying a beater.



Would it help to get the undercarriage coated? I bought a 240sx from a guy in Pennsylvania and the undercarriage was completely rust free because he'd had it coated. It looks to be a good idea, but I imagine it would cost a couple/few grand.

Yes they salt and sand the roads, it's actually a mixture of both. There are a few roads though that are labeled "limited salt use" or "no salt use", so those roads just get sanded.

FRiSson 09-09-2013 03:56 PM

The trick is to be conservative. That means:

1) Use dedicated snows.
2) Wait for the roads to be cleared.
3) Don't drive through the thick stuff. Clearance is only 5".
4) Brake easy and in advance of when you normally would, and do not turn abruptly.

That said, the car behaves very predictably in snow. Just get some experience under your belt.
Practice on a snowy parking lot. It is a lot of fun, and you'll figure out how to do a controlled slip and recovery.


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