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8686 08-26-2013 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 07jazzrs5gt86 (Post 1166062)
did it come with shims?

Yes it came with shims and seals. But the seals will not fit. I ordered new seals.

JimmyMac 08-26-2013 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 8686 (Post 1166755)
Yes it came with shims and seals. But the seals will not fit. I ordered new seals.

Looking forward to your install! Keep us posting on anything you come across.

07jazzrs5gt86 08-26-2013 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 8686 (Post 1166755)
Yes it came with shims and seals. But the seals will not fit. I ordered new seals.

What new seals part number you need for the install?
How many shims did it come with?
I've read on 1 of the cusco tread that each car have different shims size.

448hpsti 08-26-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 8686 (Post 1165959)
I got this from our local Toyota dealer for 450 $.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...1&postcount=34

Will be in my car by Thursday.

pics? before and after dyno? thx!

The Slow One 08-26-2013 12:23 PM

Do our car's speedometer have to be recalibrated after the FD install? Has anyone confirmed it with a GPS? Thanks!

ft_sjo 08-26-2013 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slow One (Post 1167251)
Do our car's speedometer have to be recalibrated after the FD install? Has anyone confirmed it with a GPS? Thanks!

No, but the gear selected indicator on the dash may be out. This can be corrected with a decent remap.

37 08-26-2013 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyMac (Post 1164940)
Also, I notice a group buy for the MFactory set for cheap. But not many willing to jump in. I'd jump in on it now if I could get it at that price.

At $600 it's a good deal. FDs aren't something most are willing to tackle so that kills popularity. Too many people here are into bolt-ons/cosmetics and won't dig into slightly more difficult parts. The 4.67 wakes this car up and makes it feel like it should have from the factory.

The MFactory gears aren't made as well as OEM but they're solid. My set didn't lay down a perfect paint mark but were shimmed properly, set at 0.008" tolerance, and make no noise as a result.


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Originally Posted by Dustin (Post 1164957)
The kit I'm getting is priced very well and doesn't require a group buy. I just don't want to jump the gun and tell people to buy it without testing it first.

Dramatic introduction aside, what's the ratio? Manufacturer?


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Originally Posted by FT-86 SpeedFactory (Post 1164980)
A 4.67 is pretty hefty for a daily driven car.

I daily the 4.67, find it on the mild side, and am glad I went 4.67 over 4.56. My last car had shorter gears and spoiled me. I'd go even shorter if I could find a taller 6th gear to drop RPMs on the highway.


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Originally Posted by mtsui (Post 1165017)
how high is the rpm when its going 80 mph in 6 gear? the car is my daily drive, but I do track alot with this car as well!

With the MF 4.67 on factory tire diameter, here's what you'll see indicated on the speedo:

60 MPH: 2950 RPM
70 MPH: 3500 RPM
75 MPH: 3750 RPM
80 MPH: 4000 RPM


Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slow One (Post 1167251)
Do our car's speedometer have to be recalibrated after the FD install? Has anyone confirmed it with a GPS? Thanks!

No. I checked the speedo against a GPS before/after installing the 4.67 and nothing changed. The sensor measures wheel speed and isn't affected by the FD ratio.

Changes to your tire's rolling diameter is the only way to change it and it's underrated anyway. 60 MPH indicated is actually around 58-59. Slightly taller tires would make it more accurate.

Anthony 08-26-2013 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 37 (Post 1167411)
I daily the 4.67, find it on the mild side, and am glad I went 4.67 over 4.56. My last car had shorter gears and spoiled me. I'd go even shorter if I could find a taller 6th gear to drop RPMs on the highway.

This makes me happy. I'm going to start looking into the Supra's 4.88 mentioned in the other final drive thread going on right now.

37 08-26-2013 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 1167438)
This makes me happy. I'm going to start looking into the Supra's 4.88 mentioned in the other final drive thread going on right now.

Keep in mind that a 4.88 would be about 4.5% over the 4.67. Take the speed/RPM numbers I posted above and multiply by 1.045 to find your approximate highway cruising RPMs. Without a taller 6th gear, 4.88 might be a bit much. That's the only way I'd recommend going taller.

Anthony 08-26-2013 01:39 PM

I don't care too much about 80 mph, I'm more interested in 1st and 6th's top speeds. This isn't my daily driver.

37 08-26-2013 01:44 PM

In that case I can't say anything negative about going shorter. The 4.67 is fun as hell. I doubt another 4.5% would be night-and-day noticeable but every little bit helps.

Go for it :thumbsup:

TouchMyHonda 08-26-2013 01:52 PM

Interesting

Anthony 08-26-2013 01:54 PM

You know of a source to figure out the top speeds of gears at that ratio? I know there are bunch out there, but the one I'm looking at now wants too much information that I don't know.

EDIT: I probably wouldn't want too go much shorter, I wouldn't think. I plan on getting on getting some really stick tires next time around, but still, I'm not trying to do 6th gear burnouts.

37 08-26-2013 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 1167509)
You know of a source to figure out the top speeds of gears at that ratio? I know there are bunch out there, but the one I'm looking at now wants too much information that I don't know.

MFactory has one on their site but I had to cheat the rolling diameter to match my real-world results. Use this link and change the FD numbers as needed. The rest is populated with 6MT BRZ ratios with 4.1 on the left and 4.67 on the right. Change the 4.1 and/or 4.67 and click "Calculate Transmission 1 & 2".

http://www.teammfactory.com/gearcalc...ission+1+%26+2


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