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sc0urge 08-16-2013 02:18 AM

Maintaining Rubber Around Front Windows
 
Not sure if this is the appropriate forum or if this should go under the other cosmetic forum, so mods please move as needed. (I've also done a search on the topic and am not sure if there's no current topics on it or if I searched the wrong terms :iono:)

That being said, I've been noticing some 'wear' on the rubber around the front windows that provide a seal when the doors are closed. (I'm referring to the windows that slide up/down when the doors open/close, not the little triangular ones.) I'm not sure if I'm imagining this 'wear' and it's just me being paranoid about maintaining my car, but I feel like the rubber might benefit from being treated with something to prevent it from drying out? Maybe oil or something? Also, on my driver's side, the rubber tends to scrunch up a little towards the angled area of the window when the door is closed instead of being uniform all the way around (wouldn't really consider it an issue but it's uniform all the way around on the passenger side). Not a huge issue, but is this common with your vehicles as well?

Another thing I noticed is that the rubber inbetween the front window and the rear window is showing some spotting and seems to be different material than the rubber I mentioned before. The piece I'm talking about is the little bit of rubber that is exposed when the front doors are closed. There seems to be different patches of rubber that make up this particular piece (and on both driver and passenger sides) and some patches show actual spotting. It kind of looks like it's drying out and the material seems a little stickier than the other parts of this material. Sorry if I'm being vague and unclear. I'll try to get pictures with proper lighting tomorrow to demonstrate what I'm talking about.

Ultimately these aren't really big issues for me, but I just don't want them to become issues in the future. Any thoughts?


PS: This is unrelated but I thought it could use a mention since it didn't seem very popular at the time of original posting and is an issue I feel could be easily overlooked:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17191
It's a thread started by @Subforever regarding an issue with the rubber on the small, triangular window on the front doors. Might be worth checking out and making sure your vehicle isn't showing any of those issues.

GeeTee86 08-16-2013 02:26 AM

Driver side window rubber on order after service manager picked up its not making a proper seal.

RFB 08-16-2013 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc0urge (Post 1144773)
Not sure if this is the appropriate forum or if this should go under the other cosmetic forum, so mods please move as needed. (I've also done a search on the topic and am not sure if there's no current topics on it or if I searched the wrong terms :iono:)

That being said, I've been noticing some 'wear' on the rubber around the front windows that provide a seal when the doors are closed. (I'm referring to the windows that slide up/down when the doors open/close, not the little triangular ones.) I'm not sure if I'm imagining this 'wear' and it's just me being paranoid about maintaining my car, but I feel like the rubber might benefit from being treated with something to prevent it from drying out? Maybe oil or something? Also, on my driver's side, the rubber tends to scrunch up a little towards the angled area of the window when the door is closed instead of being uniform all the way around (wouldn't really consider it an issue but it's uniform all the way around on the passenger side). Not a huge issue, but is this common with your vehicles as well?

Another thing I noticed is that the rubber inbetween the front window and the rear window is showing some spotting and seems to be different material than the rubber I mentioned before. The piece I'm talking about is the little bit of rubber that is exposed when the front doors are closed. There seems to be different patches of rubber that make up this particular piece (and on both driver and passenger sides) and some patches show actual spotting. It kind of looks like it's drying out and the material seems a little stickier than the other parts of this material. Sorry if I'm being vague and unclear. I'll try to get pictures with proper lighting tomorrow to demonstrate what I'm talking about.

Ultimately these aren't really big issues for me, but I just don't want them to become issues in the future. Any thoughts?


PS: This is unrelated but I thought it could use a mention since it didn't seem very popular at the time of original posting and is an issue I feel could be easily overlooked:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17191
It's a thread started by @Subforever regarding an issue with the rubber on the small, triangular window on the front doors. Might be worth checking out and making sure your vehicle isn't showing any of those issues.

Supposedly the best rubber preservative is 303 - available at marine supply stores. Ive been using it on my window rubber and tires - works well !

:happy0180:

Richard Cranium 08-16-2013 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RFB (Post 1145486)
Supposedly the best rubber preservative is 303 - available at marine supply stores. Ive been using it on my window rubber and tires - works well !

:happy0180:

Another to consider is Adam's Polishes Super VRT. Its water resistant and can be used on many surfaces. I use it on my rubber trim with a MF applicator pad, inside & out, and follow up with a dry regular MF towel to remove and extra. Keeps things looking real nice.

Jertronic 08-16-2013 02:43 PM

http://www.autogeek.net/1z-einszett-...are-stick.html

This is what I use. Purchased it for my BMW per recommendation from Bimmerfest forum. Also available from Amazon for $8 and is Amazon Prime eligible.

shiumai 08-16-2013 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RFB (Post 1145486)
Supposedly the best rubber preservative is 303 - available at marine supply stores. Ive been using it on my window rubber and tires - works well !:happy0180:

303 is what i use as well - when i wash the car i also wipe down the window rubber seals with 303.

Mr. Sparkle 08-16-2013 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiumai (Post 1145903)
303 is what i use as well - when i wash the car i also wipe down the window rubber seals with 303.

unfortunately 303 will run in the rain. I love it for interior work but no longer for exterior trim

Its pricey, but ultima trim & tire guard is the best stuff I've found for exterior trim. Darkens it, protects it, doesn't run in the rain, actually beads water

shiumai 08-16-2013 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkle (Post 1146810)
unfortunately 303 will run in the rain. I love it for interior work but no longer for exterior trim

Its pricey, but ultima trim & tire guard is the best stuff I've found for exterior trim. Darkens it, protects it, doesn't run in the rain, actually beads water

i use it on the rubber inside the window - but you're saying that it'll run when water gets to it? i always thought that 303 was recommended for exterior use. from their website - "A surface treated with 303® Aerospace Protectant™ is water repellent (beads water). When the water repellency begins to diminish, reapply."

cnk 08-17-2013 02:02 AM

You can also use some silicone spray lubricant. I used to use it on my WRX. You spray some on a paper towel, then run it over the rubber. The silicone penetrates the rubber and prevents it from drying out. 10 years with the WRX and it was no problems in the rain nor with tinted windows.

sc0urge 08-17-2013 04:26 AM

Wow guys thanks everyone for all the replies! Something turned up today so I didn't get the wash my car and get some pictures of the rubber I was talking about but it doesn't seem necessary at this point. I'll definitely be looking up some reviews regarding the 303, the VRT, and Ultima (always hear good things about UWW+ but never heard about the trim & tire guard). The Einszett I'm actually pretty interested in but will probably hold off until the next time I need to order something from Amazon or Autogeek.

I was considering silicone spray too since I think I have some lying around and since it's know not to degrade seals, so that's good to know too.

Thanks again for all the replies!

root 08-22-2013 04:11 AM

I use 303 too. Silicone is prob ok, but body shops will hate it if it gets on your paint and you ever need body work. It makes it hell for them to try and get paint to stick.

Ghost 86 08-22-2013 10:57 AM

I've used 303 since having my s2000's it's expensive but works great


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