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Furyus67 08-09-2013 12:06 PM

Potential Buyer. Turbo vs. Supercharger
 
So I have always been an all motor Mustang kind of guy. Im thinking about coming over to the darkside because I love the unique styling of the BRZ. But, of course im going to want more power. I know very little when it comes to turbos and superchargers. My question is what would be the most reliabe power adder? I dont need 400 hp numbers, I would just like the little extra power that im used to but a reliable car i can drive everyday with little to worry about. If someone could describe the two differences I would aprreciate it.

G_Ride 08-09-2013 12:18 PM

You should probably ask in the Forced Induction section. However, I do think the jury is still out as to which will be more reliable, if there even will be a difference. There's a lot of factors to consider (boost, fuel used, intercooled/non-intercooled, tune, etc.) and it's still too early to know. There isn't enough data points.

ThisIsChrisKim 08-09-2013 12:23 PM

Honestly, I'd wait to see. If power is important to you, this might not be a good car to get. You might be really unhappy.

thill 08-09-2013 12:26 PM

I would go look in the FI subforum. There are guys with 300+ whp on these cars and using them as daily drivers. So there are lots of option out there. But there are still lots of kinks being worked out as the car is still so new.

CSG Mike 08-09-2013 12:26 PM

This may be blasphemy to a Mustang guy, but I'd consider a LS swap.... this is the wrong car if you're looking for power.

industrial 08-09-2013 12:26 PM

Save yourself alot of trouble and buy a 370z or genesis coupe. I don't think this car is for you. I'm looking to spend around $10,000 to get a "reliable" 250whp. Does that sound about right to you?

G_Ride 08-09-2013 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 1130036)
This may be blasphemy to a Mustang guy, but I'd consider a LS swap.... this is the wrong car if you're looking for power.

lol, good point. I guess it'll depend on how much of a Ford guy he is.

Furyus67 08-09-2013 12:32 PM

Thanks for the responses. Im just looking for something new. Mustangs are a dime a dozen and im lookin to be a little different now.

thill 08-09-2013 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by industrial (Post 1130037)
Save yourself alot of trouble and buy a 370z or genesis coupe. I don't think this car is for you. I'm looking to spend around $10,000 to get a "reliable" 250whp. Does that sound about right to you?

If you are going to go with bigger heavier GT style cars, you might as well keep the Mustang. Unless you just want something different.

The FT86 platform is so much different than either the Gencoupe or 370z platforms. If you are looking for light and nimble with precise handling, good gearbox, etc I definitely would not recommend a Gencoupe. The 370z is also pretty portly too.

CSG Mike 08-09-2013 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by industrial (Post 1130037)
Save yourself alot of trouble and buy a 370z or genesis coupe. I don't think this car is for you. I'm looking to spend around $10,000 to get a "reliable" 250whp. Does that sound about right to you?

Depends on what you consider reliable....

orthojoe 08-09-2013 12:40 PM

Take my advice because it will save you a lot of trouble.

If the stock power levels are not sufficient for you, don't buy the car
If you already bought the car and you're not happy with the power levels, sell the car

All those running FI will only tell you how great it is. If there are any issues/problems, it won't be mentioned. They won't tell you the real reason why they are selling the car a few months later too.

... cue the outrage from FI proponents....

G_Ride 08-09-2013 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Furyus67 (Post 1130051)
Thanks for the responses. Im just looking for something new. Mustangs are a dime a dozen and im lookin to be a little different now.

Have you driven a BRZ yet? I'd suggest you do so if you haven't yet, and also test drive the Genesis Coupe (both the turbo and V6). It may help you decide if you really want the BRZ and wlling to go force induction. Honestly, I was impressed when I test drove a Genesis Coupe R-Spec V6; the power was pretty good and handling was decent enough.

CSG Mike 08-09-2013 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orthojoe (Post 1130074)
Take my advice because it will save you a lot of trouble.

If the stock power levels are not sufficient for you, don't buy the car
If you already bought the car and you're not happy with the power levels, sell the car

All those running FI will only tell you how great it is. If there are any issues/problems, it won't be mentioned. They won't tell you the real reason why they are selling the car a few months later too.

... cue the outrage from FI proponents....

I'm not happy with the power :brokenheart:

thill 08-09-2013 12:59 PM

At this point you might want to wait and see what happens with the next gen Mustang. It could be what you are ultimately looking for as it should be lighter, have a better suspension and handling, yet still have over 300hp through either a V6 or turbo 4.

I do agree with the above though. If you don't like the power in the FT86 platform and have to go aftermarket to boose hp/tq out of the box, you might want to look at other options.

The upcoming WRX Sti could be a good alternative along with the upcoming VW GTI.


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