Why are people selling their cars?
 

If you look in the member classified's section, you'll notice lots of people selling off parts to return their cars to stock for sale.

So my question is...why do you think a sizable number of people are selling their cars off?

They want the series ten or 2014 since the only difference in 2014 will be the radio and that's so worh it

There are some really nice examples. STX and Track prepped cars, there's one with the full Rocket Bunny treatment. Some really great deals to be had...

I'd say you missed the biggest one - external factors and change of circumstances, e.g. new baby, lost job, moved elsewhere, disapproval from wife etc etc.

Because of the DI issue, surely that's where this thread is going :scared0016:

Because they can

at least one car, "track_warrior" was affected by DI

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43106
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38397

If it has the bunny kit, it means the car has been sliced and diced

That's the #1 issue with that body kit, its irreversible. I also worry about rust developing along the cuts in the sheet metal.

I just looked at classifies. The hot lava seller I don't know something must be wrong with it to want to sell for that price. All others were mainly MT high mileage in such a short time frame. Which to me means it was used and abused. And it's mostly whiteout frs on sell.

I am guessing the most common issue is people buying a car they cannot afford. This car is going to attract lots of young guys who don't understand finances.

I was one of those once myself many years ago...

Probably the speed factor everyone complains about. This car just isn't fast enough...pretty sure 90% of us guys still NA feel that way. I personally find that this will be my first true project car. 5, 10, 15 years idk how long it'll last. I just know I want to make mine a lotus quality track machine however long it takes.

Gonna go with mostly a financial issue. Not a bad thing, just happens. I love mine, but really does this matter at all?

Wouldnt a claybar + paint prevent that from happening?

It can help, but it won't prevent it. The edge of the cut won't hold paint as well as a factory edge will. Toyotas metal quality has improved since the days of the 80's Pickups though, so I'd hope in 20 years time we won't see a bunch of twins with holes in the bodies from the dreaded tinworm.

I don't know. In the factory cars go thru multi-step electrostaticly applied baths of coatings to prevent rust. That sort of process COMPLETELY, at a molecular level, coats every microscopic crevice in the sheet metal.

Here's the cut...
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7441/9...e001b6a0_b.jpg

In reggie@circuitsoul's install (http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43345) there appears to be a tar-like substance applied to the edge (probably to deal with rust).
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2853/9...5e494ed3_b.jpg

Do all of the body shops that install Rocket Bunny do the same? Will whatever is used to seal the cut in the sheet metal remain elastic and durable for the life of the car?

They got tired of children on bicycles being faster than them...

I think it's like any new platform/vehicle, people will buy the newest thing and then get bored/hype dies off so they sell it. I think a lot of people got caught up in hype about it being a drivers car, when they really wanted a "fast" car, and when they excitement of having it wore off, they realized they'd much rather have something for more straight line type stuff.

And what the hell happened like halfway through the first page of this thread? It's getting crazy in here.

alot of people are 'unhappy with the 86' , i dont know if it should be a suprise or should it be expected :(

Also, I spied something hilarious on the painters tape on the gas cap cover of the white frs on the first page

My guess is that the main reasons are:

1) Financial
2) Change of lifestyle
3) Impulse buying retraction

#3 Is the reason I first drove this car back in january. One of my college friends was literally walking by a Scion dealership and bought one, just like that. That was back when according to him, it was rare to find one in the dealership.

Anyways, last month he sold it to carmax because he realized he didn't use it nor liked it at all. We both bought our BMW 328is together about 3 years ago when we graduated, and I guess he was expecting to have a "M3 quality" of sports car. Anyways, it was an impulse buy and someone else got the benefit of it.

A 328i is by no means M3 quality... and um... the FR-S may not be as fast, but its sure a hell more fun than the M3... and won't leave you feeling like mush after a long drive... and the FR-S should be about as fast as a 328...

that impulse buy is true, i was ready to get a frs 2 weeks ago but after talking to my dad and asking on the forums here everyone said to wait until the end of the year so the dealer will give a better deal (on the 2013's) and you can see whats new in the '14s. On top of that the prices on the 370z dropped(another car im looking at). So I guess waiting is no harm.

All the reasons listed in these post are valid. I would say that if you really do not "get" this car then now is the perfect time to ditch it because they are still rare enough to be commanding great resale and trade in value. Sure, you will be taking a 3-5K hit after you figure in sales tax and everything but those that try to sell them during the winter or next year some time are probably going to get hurt alot worse.

Maybe I should grab one of these cheap.

1. I don't think it's very many in relation to the cars that have been bought. I ought to know, as I just finished shopping for a used one.

2. Extremely this:
From all my years of being on car forums, one of the universal things I've realized is that the number one enemy of fun/extra/fast/project cars and motorcycles is: the common baby.

because racecar. Ive considering selling mine at times. Impulse buy. its a fun car, but the market hype damages this car. too many options it gives a headache. and then its sad that you are proud you added that exhaust, and then you see 20 diff threads that have added 20k or more in mods. and then you feel like, dam, why continue writing in my build thread, since nobody will post in it.

Not bashing those great builds, but some people feel discouraged, that for them to have better car, you need to put a lot of money.

Case in point, HP. every HP needed becomes expensive. 5000 for a supercharger? 10,000 for trd brakes? its better to go buy a old car, and buy cheap stuff over ebay and achieve greater hp.

at the end, its whatever...

I know what you mean... I have no money for mods, so I haven't even bothered creating a build thread... all I have so far is JDM knee pads, and soon a yospeed center console plaque... :(

Great posts! (well, most) I'm gonna agree with the "impulse buy" theory, or people not getting what they expected because they bought the hype.

I personally love the car, but it wasn't an impulse buy for me (well, I guess it kinda was now that I think about it), and I knew what I was getting.

You don't need mods. Just drive and have fun and make memories and share photos from your adventures so that we may share in the experience.

And it should go without saying, don't call people "retard." It's in bad taste. (That last part is not aimed at you Luis)

but if you have an aftermarket subwoofer and amp with the stock radio that has the RCA outputs, the new radios wont have those outputs on the back, i was on the phone with scion earlier today about it, cause the 10 series and the 2014 will have the 6.1" touchscreen in em

It is not a competition. Just add the mods to make the car fit you better. Remember that the guys that are spending $20K to mod their cars now own a $50K car that is worth maybe 2-3K more than yours if done right and less than yours if done wrong.

Yeah I know, I mean like I said, he is not a true enthusiast. What he wants is a Sports car that is also luxurious and has power more than handling since all he wants it for is driving around and hit the clubs. That's why I'm saying, it was an impulse buy. I told him, you are going to get tired of that car when he bought it. I never thought it would be 5 months later though.

Anyways in regards the 328i, I'm not sure what you mean. This car has to be the most fun and complete package daily driver that it's out there.

That's the thing of BMW, it truly gives you the best of all 3 worlds: Practicality, Sportiness and Luxury (badge pride) without excelling at any of those. Having your 4-door sedan that does 0-60 in 6 secs, has a nice interior and most importantly handles like a sports car (see mechanical hydraulic steering) as your daily driver....is amazing. Now of course you paid for that too, instead of trading in mine for a 335i (F30) this year, I bought a '13 Accord and now I'm getting my '14 BRZ, and I will still end up with pocket change.

I'm enjoying it... but I still want headers... and a catback... and wheels... and hood struts... and... and... I think that's about it...

I still own a 2002 E39 530i, and my dad has a 2011 E93 M3 that was my daily driver for the past month... The FR-S to me is a better DD than the M3 and as good a DD as the E39... And I don't find the interior in my FR-S to be a downgrade (Actually, it's more of an upgrade since I have touch screen, and the M3 basic)

A 4 door car will always be more practical than a 2 door coupe... and a 2 door coupe will always be more practical than a vert...

Mechanical hydraulic steering means nothing really... the FR-S EPS is as comunicative as the M3 and and the E39's, being a touch heavier and more precise than the E39

Some people probably just traded up to a 10 series (me) or a BRZ Limited. Loving the car but missing their lazy auto features.

We must have very different views when it comes to this car, because everything you said either surprised me or didn't make sense to me.

I love all the options.

Whenever I start to mod mine, I will be proud of each individual mod. For the time that it only has one, I will be proud of that one. When I install the final one (LOL "final one") I will be proud of it and still of the first one. If someone else has $20k in their car, then I will be really psyched for them. And if some other guy doesn't have any money into the car, but has $200,000 that is the car because it's a Ferrari, then I will be really psyched for him too. And if yet another guy is driving his 15 year old FR-S/BRZ around, stock as hell and loving every bit of it, then I will be happy for him as well.

I have a build thread already, and I still won't even lay eyes on my car for the first time for 4 more months. I updated it a few days ago and didn't even bother to give it a bump. I don't care if anyone ever sees it. It's a fun and very effective way of keeping a journal of the car.

Yes, it is true that you'll need more money to have a better car, but there are two things that make this fact not too hard to accept:

1. There are lots of things you can do for free to make it "better," such as free mods (weight reduction, adjusting things, debadging, etc.) or just driving it so that you get better at it which will lead to more fun.

2. The money thing is never ending. You could buy a Hennessey Venom and then start modding it to make it better. "Better" is all a matter of opinion and there could be any number of "fastest car in the world"'s because there are all sorts of ways to determine fastness.

I also have two ways of seeing this:

1. If your goal is a dyno queen, why in the balls did you choose an 86 as your platform?

2. Maybe your goal isn't to have the most HP ever, but to have the most HP ever in an 86. In which case, you are at the beginning of a very long, expensive, and difficult road that parallels the same road for any other car on the planet. Hell, it'd probably be cheaper to have the world's highest HP FR-S than whatever the current highest HP Civic is. There are millions of crazy ass Civics out there.

If you determine how much you're enjoying your car based on your car's condition in relation to all the other cars' conditions, then I guess that's why all your points seem so strange to me. I'm not saying you're wrong or trying to argue, it's just your points seemed so alien to me.

I love the hell out of my car (that I've never even driven). I would absolutely sell it if I needed to save a testicle or something. But not because the Evasive Motorsports car is driving around somewhere.

That's nice to hear. The test drives I had in the FRS gave me that impression about the steering, but you never know by driving a car 30 mins each time.

Good to hear the steering of the FRS is solid coming from someone that drove the (old now) mechanic hydraulic M3s steering.

Funny part I felt the same way regarding the interior of my 328i when I got my '13 accord few months ago. It has so many more features like Pandora, text thingy, etc, that I actually enjoyed my time in there more than in my 328i. (on my daily commute).

Some people just have that wandering eye, need to have the latest and greatest. Never hold onto any car for long and quickly move to the next car of the hour....

it kind of sounded like it was my opinion, it was more of a generalized statement in the first person. But some of it may have real sentiment. some people want to belong, thats why they join a forum. To belong in a community, but also some feel that they cant belong if they are not up to par with the rest. So they decide to go back or change route

my real opinion on the car, is that its an expensive lego car. Each building block is expensive. Dont get me wrong, Its fun to drive. In 10 years it will be fun to drive, and see how the kids admire the car, being one owner , stock and unmolested.

I have it, but i decided not to modify it. Let all the hype blur, let the supra come, (if it does) , people will move on, the forum will become little less crowded, and take it from there, buy the used mods for cheap.

I continue building my old 76 jalopy of a celica, and enjoy that more because i built it, then move to my other J-tins.....

I can afford to have several cars, but for the most part, some people cant, and when they see the challenges that they need to overcome it scares them.

i just love this pic, it was taken several weeks ago and some people think its funny (but in reality those are my priorities)....

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...11C4CD16BE.jpg

I am thinking of selling my car because most owners that I see are young ricer punks. So the reason for selling is the stigma that it's a ricer car.

Thank you.

Can't tell if trolling...