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mrk1 08-04-2013 11:20 PM

Hotchkis Camber plates, anyone tried them?
 
http://www.hotchkis.net/scion-frs-su...er-plates.html

I'm looking for a replacement for the whiteline com mounts. Has anyone tried these hotchkis plates? I've used hotchkis sways before with great success.

KONVERTER 08-05-2013 05:14 AM

Hotchkis makes a good product.

These are ideal if you are using aftermarket shocks & springs and want adjustable camber. Many coilover kits are going to have pillow ball camber plates.

Many of these Hotchkis products are used for different autocross classes that may require factory suspension / specific stock / spring combo's only.

wparsons 08-05-2013 10:15 AM

Looks like a good option!

feldy 08-05-2013 12:37 PM

Does anyone know if these work with the OEM upper spring perch?

Hotchkis 08-05-2013 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by feldy (Post 1119256)
Does anyone know if these work with the OEM upper spring perch?

Hi feldy,

Yes, the Hotchkis camber plates were originally designed to work with the OEM upper spring perch. They will work with Koni yellows, along with other coilover struts that intended to reuse the OEM top hat.

Another factor that we paid close attention to was maintaining bump stroke and not raising the ride height with these camber plates. Let us know if you have any other questions.

Cheers!

feldy 08-05-2013 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotchkis (Post 1119713)
Hi feldy,

Yes, the Hotchkis camber plates were originally designed to work with the OEM upper spring perch. They will work with Koni yellows, along with other coilover struts that intended to reuse the OEM top hat.

Another factor that we paid close attention to was maintaining bump stroke and not raising the ride height with these camber plates. Let us know if you have any other questions.

Cheers!


Thanks for the reply. Currently on my 4th set of white line c-coms they just cant take the extra caster. Hoping to find something that worked with the oem top hats.

console_cowboy 08-05-2013 03:30 PM

So is there a reason you decided to go with 6065 aluminum over 7075 aluminum? I've dealt with equipment made out of both, and 7075 has always been much more sturdy stuff. I am just curious about the reasoning of going with what is traditionally considered a weaker aluminum alloy.

TrogDor the Burninator 08-05-2013 03:44 PM

I'm waiting ... ever so patiently ... on the Raceseng caster/camber plates:

http://www.raceseng.com/blog/design/...camber-plates/

Hotchkis 08-05-2013 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by console_cowboy (Post 1119749)
So is there a reason you decided to go with 6065 aluminum over 7075 aluminum? I've dealt with equipment made out of both, and 7075 has always been much more sturdy stuff. I am just curious about the reasoning of going with what is traditionally considered a weaker aluminum alloy.

Hi console_cowboy,

We designed our camber plates using 6061 T6 AL due to it's strength, weight, and cost. 6061 is more than adequate for this particular component. We did not want to incur more cost for 7075 when it did not need to.

Now with that said, we do produce other components (for other applications) out 7075 where more strength is needed. So we do not shy away from stronger, more expensive materials, but rather use it when we need it.

Cheers!

Calum 11-16-2014 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotchkis (Post 1120424)
Hi console_cowboy,

We designed our camber plates using 6061 T6 AL due to it's strength, weight, and cost. 6061 is more than adequate for this particular component. We did not want to incur more cost for 7075 when it did not need to.

Now with that said, we do produce other components (for other applications) out 7075 where more strength is needed. So we do not shy away from stronger, more expensive materials, but rather use it when we need it.

Cheers!


Back from the dead...

What's the life expectancy of the bearings in these?

Anyone using these able to share a review?

wootwoot 11-16-2014 10:41 PM

I'm curious what kind of camber you can get of of them when not using the supplied camber bolts?

Hotchkis 11-18-2014 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calum (Post 2024648)
Back from the dead...

What's the life expectancy of the bearings in these?

Anyone using these able to share a review?

Calum,

On our shop FR-S we recently checked the condition of our Hotchkis camber plate bearings and they were still in good condition. We had approximately 13k miles of street, track, and autocross driving. We've never experienced any noise or knocking from these plates.

Just like anything else, bearings will eventually wear out and need replacement. The bearing itself is replaceable, so you can always order more from us when needed. We do use large, high quality Aurora M20 PTFE lined spherical bearings, so life expectancy is great for a pillow ball designed camber plate.

Thanks for the inquiry!

Hotchkis 11-18-2014 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wootwoot (Post 2024657)
I'm curious what kind of camber you can get of of them when not using the supplied camber bolts?

wootwoot,

You can get about 1.5° of negative camber using our plates without using the supplied crash bolt. Note:This is for an OE style strut equipped car. Various adjustable coilovers do have the upright mounting holes in different locations (compared to OE) that allow for more negative camber. In some coilover cases, one could achieve a decent amount of negative camber with simply using the crash bolts, which could save some guys money by just buying bolts.

The camber plates do have 1° of positive caster built in as well.

Thanks for the inquiry!


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