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powertrip 03-22-2012 09:20 AM
I'm a little surprised at how many people complain that German cars are that expensive to maintain. My current car (2004 C320) has over 125k clocked on it and I do all my work on it myself. Only had minor issues so far (alternator just went out) and all have been inexpensive to fix.

German cars, like any car are not that expensive if YOU DO THE WORK YOURSELF. Dont complain if you take it to the dealer as dealer service is expensive anywhere.

Hanzo 03-22-2012 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SOB (Post 161984)
The FRS/BRZ is slower, gets about the same mileage, has less space, uses crappier materials, and has less options.

I'd definitely get the FRS!
Looking at the FRS/BRZ purely by what's on paper misses the point of this car. It is supposed to be fun to drive. I would agree with you if the car drove like the others you've listed but from all the reviews so far it's a fantastic car to drive. Base purchasing purely on price I would actually buy a used Boxster/Cayman than any you've listed.

NERO 03-22-2012 09:47 AM
When you consider that the BMW 335i weights 3607 lbs and has 300 HP compared to the FRS/BRZ weights between 2600-2700 lbs and has 200 HP, you're talking about a 1-1.5 HP to weight ratio difference. While you will probably be able to feel the difference, that could be made up in weight reduction and performance parts.

I sat in the BRZ for the first time last night and it was such an impressive feel. They really did an outstanding job of designing/developing the car for the driver. Doubt you would be disappointed.

maxeveland 03-22-2012 11:13 AM
If its that old, I think upgrading to the frs/brz will be really worth it. Just use it as a weekend car like others have said

SVTSHC 03-22-2012 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MRZ415 (Post 162025)
You sir should get a FORD mustang 5.0 and be on your merry way.
:thanks:
*le sigh*

Leave Ford alone god damnit.


@OP, keep the 335i as a DD and turn the FRS into a track rat. Get the base model FRS and do what you want to it for the track, keep the 335i as a fun/comfortable daily driver... but your warranty should be ending either this year next year or the year after if your car sat on the lot before you bought it, so unless you've got CPO/extended maint you'll take a serious shot to the wallet if you aren't doing the work yourself.

LSxJunkie 03-22-2012 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 86fanatic (Post 161619)
335i is a car with zero personality. It is a highway cruiser. Put your foot down, go forward really fast. Just a car that doesn't appeal to me at all.

None of us have driven an FRS yet, but it's going to be a much more involving experience. It will be more sensitive to driver inputs, you will feel the road and what's going on, and I think it will bring you into the experience of driving and having fun while driving much more.

Of course maintenance costs and the worry free ownership experience is just the icing on the cake.
I take it, from this assertion, that you've driven a 335i in anger?

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Originally Posted by powertrip (Post 162129)
I'm a little surprised at how many people complain that German cars are that expensive to maintain. My current car (2004 C320) has over 125k clocked on it and I do all my work on it myself. Only had minor issues so far (alternator just went out) and all have been inexpensive to fix.

German cars, like any car are not that expensive if YOU DO THE WORK YOURSELF. Dont complain if you take it to the dealer as dealer service is expensive anywhere.

There are some things that you don't want to do yourself on a BMW. Like service the VANOS. I could do it, but for the love of God do I not want to.

Fancy valvetrain=costly repair.


I <3 pushrods.

86fanatic 03-22-2012 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SOB (Post 161984)
The FRS/BRZ is slower, gets about the same mileage, has less space, uses crappier materials, and has less options.

I'd definitely get the FRS!
If this is your criteria you will be very disappointed with the FRS over the 335i. If you care about throttle response, steering feel, turn in, handling, or whether your car comes with an LSD or not, the picture changes.

DieDriving 03-22-2012 02:25 PM
Keep the beemer, buy a FRS if you can afford it but I don't suggest sell it for the FRS....I have a "06 330i and sure as hell I won't sell it for this car.....don't get me wrong, the FRS might be "pure" in term of driving, but it can't be compare to BMW.....it's like apple to orange....it's your car, dont let anyone says otherwise.

Megalodon 03-23-2012 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 86fanatic (Post 161619)
335i is a car with zero personality. It is a highway cruiser. Put your foot down, go forward really fast. Just a car that doesn't appeal to me at all.

None of us have driven an FRS yet, but it's going to be a much more involving experience. It will be more sensitive to driver inputs, you will feel the road and what's going on, and I think it will bring you into the experience of driving and having fun while driving much more.

Of course maintenance costs and the worry free ownership experience is just the icing on the cake.
335i a highway cruiser? You obviously have never driven a 3 series

86fanatic 03-23-2012 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Megalodon (Post 163772)
335i a highway cruiser? You obviously have never driven a 3 series
I have? Anyways, it's a well balanced car and all that, but come on. It's a quiet, refined, soft, un-involving, vague steering, people mover. The 3 series has turned into an appliance with no character. Put your foot down and you go fast, hit a corner and you'll be wishing for steering feedback, cursing understeer, and wondering why BMW is too cheap to put a LSD on a 40 grand car.

Capt Canuck 03-23-2012 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Megalodon (Post 163772)
335i a highway cruiser? You obviously have never driven a 3 series
Eh? But it does do exactly that. I am not sure of the full spec of the one I was in, apart from it having an autobox, but it can chew up highway miles effortlessly.

Can it do other things? Yes. That is why it is such an excellent all-rounder executive saloon/coupe.

yjbeach 03-23-2012 01:50 PM
Stay with the BWM

noob 03-23-2012 02:14 PM
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3413

86fanatic 03-23-2012 02:52 PM
I guess I was being a little harsh on the bimmer but they are really two different cars. Compare a 335i to a 911, same deal. The 911 is involving, alive, visceral, and a proper sports car. The 335i by comparison is a driving appliance. Think of the FR-S as a cheaper alternative to a 911.


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