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Euro7R 08-01-2013 12:48 AM

Leather Seat Wear
 
Subaru BRZ with 2200 miles/3600km. I noticed the driver seat, left portion where the left thigh area rests is drying up and slight crack line. I tried applying leather conditioner, but the crack is still there, but not as dry.

Any way to completely fix this? Apply more leather conditioner and work in into the leather? I wish the entire seat is alcantara and not part leather. Leather is so hard to maintain.

rumors 08-01-2013 12:56 AM

Same thing happened in my S2000, I think it's mostly from getting in and out of the car.

mush 08-01-2013 01:04 AM

this is why i dont like leather, it looks good till it starts to wear. cloth can last forever

Euro7R 08-01-2013 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by rumors (Post 1110204)
Same thing happened in my S2000, I think it's mostly from getting in and out of the car.

I'm gonna try to get in and out of the car without touching the left portion of the seat. Very annoying with the wear since the car is still practically brand new.

Euro7R 08-01-2013 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mush (Post 1110229)
this is why i dont like leather, it looks good till it starts to wear. cloth can last forever

Agreed! I can do whatever to cloth and still look brand new as long as it's maintained. Damn leather!!

theredtape 08-01-2013 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Euro7R (Post 1110181)
Subaru BRZ with 2200 miles/3600km. I noticed the driver seat, left portion where the left thigh area rests is drying up and slight crack line. I tried applying leather conditioner, but the crack is still there, but not as dry.

Any way to completely fix this? Apply more leather conditioner and work in into the leather? I wish the entire seat is alcantara and not part leather. Leather is so hard to maintain.

When I was cleaning mine the other day I noticed a crease line in the left upper bolster and another in the lower left bolster. I know this is because I have been pretty rough getting in and out of the car. I don't really have a choice about how rough I am though, the car is so low I kinda fall in and out of it. It doesn't look all that bad. I cleaned it up and now I am making a point to not crush them when getting in. Oh well, its just a car....

BRZfan 08-01-2013 09:50 AM

Ditto. Plus:

1. Leather is hotter in summer.
2. Leather is colder in the winter.
3. Cloth is easy to clean.
4. This particular BRZ cloth weave and material will look good forever.
5. Remember, leather is used to hold a cow together, not car seats.
Quote:

Originally Posted by mush (Post 1110229)
this is why i dont like leather, it looks good till it starts to wear. cloth can last forever


brzninja 08-01-2013 12:17 PM

I asked the same thing a few momnths ago...bit of info has helped me out a lot and I haven't seen any wear since.

Though I may pony up some cash and get some cloth seat replacements.

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Originally Posted by Laika (Post 956522)
Ever notice that rubberized piece on the inside of the door sill? For better idea, it's right below and to the left of your left thigh when sitting in the driver's seat. That single piece was made out of the rubber-ish material instead of hard plastic because you're supposed to push against it with your left hand to hoist yourself out of the car. If you're worried about hurting your seats, that is what you need to do when you egress.


gily25 08-01-2013 04:31 PM

Unless you have high-mileage or are obviously overweight (I've heard of some denials for weight issues) then I don't think it can be considered a normal "wear" item. I would check into a warranty replacement.

mechaghost 08-01-2013 04:36 PM

Same thing here, my solution was to push the seat back a little bit so my fat butt wont scrape the left bolster anymore

37 08-01-2013 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BRZfan (Post 1110727)
Ditto. Plus:

1. Leather is hotter in summer.
2. Leather is colder in the winter.
3. Cloth is easy to clean.
4. This particular BRZ cloth weave and material will look good forever.
5. Remember, leather is used to hold a cow together, not car seats.

This.

The quality of leather in the BRZ is low and the sad truth is Alcantara doesn't wear well over time. I've had two cars with Alcantara and neither lasted long without looking worn, and I take excellent care of my stuff. I skipped the Limited purely because I didn't want the seats or the spoiler. The rest of the features were gimmicks.

But, I digress.

The quality of cloth in the BRZ Premium is outstanding. The only issue I expect is a potential for slight fading over time for those who can't garage their cars during the day. Otherwise I'd be willing to wager the cloth seats lasting just as long for those who don't carelessly rub against the bolsters during ingress/egress.

37 08-01-2013 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jawnathin (Post 1111817)
Lots of folks justifying their Scion/BRZ Premium purchase here, go figure.

Hardly, but thanks for the psychology attempt. :bonk:

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Originally Posted by Jawnathin (Post 1111817)
And the statement about Alcantara wearing poorly is untrue.

Not in my experience. Had it in two cars for the last 14 years and both looked worn after DD'ing. The bolsters on one pair of seats (bucket seats, mind you) were pilled and fuzzy. Just because you've had good luck with it doesn't make my experience any less true. ;)

zc06_kisstherain 08-01-2013 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jawnathin (Post 1111817)
Lots of folks justifying their Scion/BRZ Premium purchase here, go figure.

Leather will wear, but the Leather/Alcantara seats always still look nicer than the standard cloth seats. The leather on the seats are not of low quality, it is decent overall, and quite good if considering the price level of the car.

And the statement about Alcantara wearing poorly is untrue. One of the main benefits to Alcantara is that it is wear and stain resistant. Another benefit is that is very easy to clean. I have had Alcantara on two other cars and they still look fresh and nice.

I don't mind the cloth seats, they're quite good and supportive. However, the leather/alcantara seats take it up a notch and are nicer.

Lots of folks justifying their BRZ Limited purchase here, go figure

i am just messing with ya but everyone has their own reason for pick premium vs Limited. when i went to dealer to choose between two trim didnt really matter as long as car was available but i ended up pre-order premium because i couldnt justfiy myself spending $2000 more for heated seats, wings, auto/dual climate control, start engine button and etc. (unless limited version had more performance parts installed)
since i had leather on previous cars and have my other daily cars have leather now, only benefit i can have is i can get rid of stain if it's dirty but if i spill something on cloth seats, it's difficult to clean.

zc06_kisstherain 08-01-2013 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jawnathin (Post 1111890)
I know you're messing around, but I don't think that statement holds the same weight.

Considering this is a thread about a material that is specific to the Limited trim and not the Premium trim, there is good reason for Limited owners to be here and a good reason for Premium owners not to be here.

Just saying.

no offense taken and you are right about staying on topic.

OP's describing section of leather is common area of torn apart. I saw on s2k, miata, rsx and etc. in order to prevent, avoid to scrub/touch when get in and out?

BRZfan 08-01-2013 06:26 PM

A conclusion with no facts
 
"Lots of folks..."
"...justifying Scion/BRZ Premium..."
Paranoid? Buyer's Remorse?

I reviewed all of the previous posts prior to the quoted post below and there was just one mention of the Premium model and that post was merely being specific about a material, that being from the BRZ Premium. The only other vehicle mentioned was the S2000. Also, some drivers being phat or having a "big butt".

It is not whether it is from a Premium model or the Limited model. Altho I have a Premium model I may very well have purchased a Limited model were it not 'limited' (no pun intended) to the leather/Alcantara material. This factor was a major decision-maker for me.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Jawnathin (Post 1111817)
Lots of folks justifying their Scion/BRZ Premium purchase here, go figure.

Leather will wear, but the Leather/Alcantara seats always still look nicer than the standard cloth seats. The leather on the seats are not of low quality, it is decent overall, and quite good if considering the price level of the car.

And the statement about Alcantara wearing poorly is untrue. One of the main benefits to Alcantara is that it is wear and stain resistant. Another benefit is that is very easy to clean. I have had Alcantara on two other cars and they still look fresh and nice.

I don't mind the cloth seats, they're quite good and supportive. However, the leather/alcantara seats take it up a notch and are nicer.


Norkoastal 08-01-2013 06:30 PM

I think the bolsters are going to be a heavy wear item for both Premiums and Limiteds.. Hopefully we'll have fair priced facory replacement available when the time comes to swap them out.

37 08-01-2013 06:56 PM

The topic is leather seat wear. Having an opinion and discussion of leather, cloth, or alcantara is expected in a thread about seats. Even the OP said "Damn Leather!!!" shortly into the discussion and he owns a Limited.

It went off-topic after saying Premium and FRS owners were purportedly justifying their purchases. That is what had nothing to do with the topic, not the material.

sprintertrueno86 08-01-2013 06:59 PM

Left side bolster will always have more wear from getting in and out. Try reclining the seat when you're gettin out?

I wish there was a full leather option for the Limited. Didn't like the alcantara as much as I thought.

Never sat in the Premium but the cloth seats look very nice if they are like other Subaru seating.

monkeedoo 08-01-2013 07:14 PM

why must we fight amongst ourselves ,cant we all just get along? ...and go back to making fun of scion owners:lol: just kidding

BRZfan 08-01-2013 08:20 PM

"Less than 20 minutes after the thread was posted and within the 2nd reply, there was a post about how great cloth seats are and how leather sucks."

Wadaya expect from a poster that has a monkey as an avatar? Now we have two monkeys (MONKEEDOO). They are just being protective about themselves, i.e. monkey leather. Nothin' wrong with that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jawnathin (Post 1112015)
Nope, no buyer's remorse at all. Very happy with what I have and not insecure to argue about little things like trim level. Unlike many of the posters in here who came in to talk about how great they think their cloth is in a thread that had no meaning to them.

And re-read the topic. Less than 20 minutes after the thread was posted and within the 2nd reply, there was a post about how great cloth seats are and how leather sucks. Then you quoted him to talk about how great your cloth Premium seats are and how much more leather sucks. And there are a few other posts which follow along the same gist.

And all of this is in a topic which has nothing to do with cloth seats.


AznBRZer 08-01-2013 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sprintertrueno86 (Post 1112078)
Left side bolster will always have more wear from getting in and out. Try reclining the seat when you're gettin out?

I wish there was a full leather option for the Limited. Didn't like the alcantara as much as I thought.

Never sat in the Premium but the cloth seats look very nice if they are like other Subaru seating.

Preferably perforated leather. The alcantara doesn't feel like it breathes AT ALL.

sprintertrueno86 08-01-2013 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AznBRZer (Post 1112351)
Preferably perforated leather. The alcantara doesn't feel like it breathes AT ALL.

:word:

It's gross how sweaty my thighs get even wearing shorts with A/C on. :barf:

BRZfan 08-01-2013 11:58 PM

Name-calling is a sign of immaturity.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jawnathin (Post 1112364)
Nope.

The topic is leather seat wear. It was never about cloth, your opinion of alcantara, or about how happy you were with your Premium seats. All of which was discussed by the cloth nutswingers far earlier than when I had arrived.


monkeedoo 08-02-2013 06:03 AM

burp...

theredtape 08-02-2013 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brzninja (Post 1111002)
I asked the same thing a few momnths ago...bit of info has helped me out a lot and I haven't seen any wear since.

Though I may pony up some cash and get some cloth seat replacements.

I read this yesterday and was like.... "WHAT?"

Then I took a look around and found that rubberized piece, I even tried to use it. Nope no way will that work for me. I think I am not shaped right, It felt like I was trying to touch the ground to lift my self out of the car. I am gonna stick with the pull myself toward the steering wheel and lift my legs as much as possible method.

DavidGaddy 08-03-2013 02:15 AM

The same thing happened not long after I purchased my 2007 Lexus IS 250 in 2007

mush 08-03-2013 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidGaddy (Post 1115378)
The same thing happened not long after I purchased my 2007 Lexus IS 250 in 2007

my 2013 Lexus GS350 only had 3700 miles on it when i sold it. i already saw the leather starting to crease
i did condition/wipe it down with the leather thing couple times and the car was a garage queen
im a slim/light guy and i was careful when getting in and out of the car too

s0sl0w 08-03-2013 03:24 PM

I love my leather, alcantra, keyless start, functional spoiler, heated seats, and nice looking climate control.

Suck it trebeck. Seriously some people (like me) want all the options, looking at a blank place knowing a button belongs there but there isn't one because I was cheap over a couple thousand would bother me the entire time I owned the car. Others don't mind. Good for them, good for me. The only thing that means is we both got the car we wanted, it doesn't mean your decision was better or smarter.

Luis_GT 08-03-2013 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s0sl0w (Post 1115968)
I love my leather, alcantra, keyless start, functional spoiler, heated seats, and nice looking climate control.

Suck it trebeck. Seriously some people (like me) want all the options, looking at a blank place knowing a button belongs there but there isn't one because I was cheap over a couple thousand would bother me the entire time I owned the car. Others don't mind. Good for them, good for me. The only thing that means is we both got the car we wanted, it doesn't mean your decision was better or smarter.

You talkin about this lil square where I can put something cool in?

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...08377183_n.jpg

Frstorm 08-03-2013 08:35 PM

Sos- I own a firestorm FRS and laugh at brz owners. Like I've said in many threads, I hate the front bumper of the BRZ not to mention the sides of it too. Plus the scion badges are better. I have zero need for heated seats and the buttons would just annoy me. Wasn't going to comment until you implied all FRS owners did it to save money. I did not pick the FRS to save money, I bought the FRS to avoid your fugly front bumper and the side piece that is perfect for the 86 sign and Subaru put an ugly metal strip since 86 is a Toyota thing. Since I owned my car I put all LED's in and my own nav system in which I hear brz owners also hate their nav systems. To each their own but don't post assumptions that are wrong to validate why you went with what you did. And besides I also have a customized plate like the previous frs owner which I love.

Luis_GT 08-03-2013 08:43 PM

@Frstorm

I think you need to check who you're referring too... :bonk:

SpectreRT 08-03-2013 08:45 PM

Jeeze, a little hostile no? At the end of the day we all own the same car...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frstorm (Post 1116368)
LUIS- I own a firestorm FRS and laugh at brz owners. Like I've said in many threads, I hate the front bumper of the BRZ not to mention the sides of it too. Plus the scion badges are better. I have zero need for heated seats and the buttons would just annoy me. Wasn't going to comment until you implied all FRS owners did it to save money. I did not pick the FRS to save money, I bought the FRS to avoid your fugly front bumper and the side piece that is perfect for the 86 sign and Subaru put an ugly metal strip since 86 is a Toyota thing. Since I owned my car I put all LED's in and my own nav system in which I hear brz owners also hate their nav systems. To each their own but don't post assumptions that are wrong to validate why you went with what you did. And besides I also have a customized plate like the previous frs owner which I love.


Frstorm 08-03-2013 08:48 PM

Luis- sorry

Frstorm 08-03-2013 08:51 PM

Spect- Na, just wanted to make sure SOS knows his front bumper is fugly compared to the FRS front bumper and that is one of the reason I went with an FRS and not because it was cheaper which with all the extra features I got I could of gotten a BRZ slightly cheaper.

enwave 08-03-2013 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frstorm (Post 1116368)
Sos- I own a firestorm FRS and laugh at brz owners. Like I've said in many threads, I hate the front bumper of the BRZ not to mention the sides of it too. Plus the scion badges are better. I have zero need for heated seats and the buttons would just annoy me. Wasn't going to comment until you implied all FRS owners did it to save money. I did not pick the FRS to save money, I bought the FRS to avoid your fugly front bumper and the side piece that is perfect for the 86 sign and Subaru put an ugly metal strip since 86 is a Toyota thing. Since I owned my car I put all LED's in and my own nav system in which I hear brz owners also hate their nav systems. To each their own but don't post assumptions that are wrong to validate why you went with what you did. And besides I also have a customized plate like the previous frs owner which I love.

Lol.

SpectreRT 08-03-2013 09:59 PM

Understood, but your opinion is not "gospel." People will have different opinions - you can express yours without being excessively negative.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frstorm (Post 1116389)
Spect- Na, just wanted to make sure SOS knows his front bumper is fugly compared to the FRS front bumper and that is one of the reason I went with an FRS and not because it was cheaper which with all the extra features I got I could of gotten a BRZ slightly cheaper.


bcj 08-03-2013 10:30 PM

In the BRZ side of the forum, I endeavor to be a little circumspect 8)

s0sl0w 08-04-2013 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frstorm (Post 1116368)
Sos- I own a firestorm FRS and laugh at brz owners. Like I've said in many threads, I hate the front bumper of the BRZ not to mention the sides of it too. Plus the scion badges are better. I have zero need for heated seats and the buttons would just annoy me. Wasn't going to comment until you implied all FRS owners did it to save money. I did not pick the FRS to save money, I bought the FRS to avoid your fugly front bumper and the side piece that is perfect for the 86 sign and Subaru put an ugly metal strip since 86 is a Toyota thing. Since I owned my car I put all LED's in and my own nav system in which I hear brz owners also hate their nav systems. To each their own but don't post assumptions that are wrong to validate why you went with what you did. And besides I also have a customized plate like the previous frs owner which I love.

That's cute but adults were talking. I implied nothing, you however inferred much, which tells me that you're looking for reason to be offended.

And not to argue but FYI the FRS bumper (which I like mostly) and side stakes (which I dislike) can be added to the BRZ for less than the cost of proper head lights for the FRS. Calling either car ugly tells me your eyes are broken or you're blinded by rampant fanboyism, which is laughable since they're practically the same car. I don't five a damn for what reasons you chose a FRS vs. A BRZ but you're reasons are no more or less valid than anyone else's.

Now go enjoy you're de-contented BRZ, wearing a badge dreamed up by some marketing weenies for the north american market only because any other market would see right through the charade. We all have our reasons, quit pretending yours are better.

enwave 08-04-2013 03:56 AM

Don't feed the trolls! Just lol, popcorn, and relax. We drive a great car, they drive a great car, all is well with life. Don't let 'em get a rise out of you.

Anyway... leather seat wear...

Luis_GT 08-04-2013 11:18 AM

I think the leather seats subaru put on suck...

My 530i has 11 year, and outside of the leather being dirty, it has barely any cracks...


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