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jwlee7ucla 07-30-2013 05:01 PM

Heel-Toe questions
 
I'm having trouble doing it in this car, mainly because the gas pedal is so far back compare to the brakes, so I tend to stab air.

Can you move the gas pedal forward?

How do you guys remedy this, or is it just "you get used to it after a while" ?

Calavera 07-30-2013 05:07 PM

Not being sarcastic here, I had kind of the same issue and moved the seat closer and pushed the steering wheel all the way in to give more chest room (really exit belly room lol).

jwlee7ucla 07-30-2013 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calavera (Post 1106644)
Not being sarcastic here, I had kind of the same issue and moved the seat closer and pushed the steering wheel all the way in to give more chest room (really exit belly room lol).


my issue is all feet. In my last car the gas and brake pedals were basically the same height.

mav1178 07-30-2013 05:10 PM

You learn to do it properly.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42422

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-alex

jwlee7ucla 07-30-2013 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 1106654)

i've been heel-toeing since 2007, which was when I first went on a race track.

mav1178 07-30-2013 05:17 PM

I've been doing the same since 1997, and I have found no issues with heel/toe in this car.

The only time(s) I have an issue is when I have to wear dress shoes for work.

-alex

Edit: the biggest issue with heel/toe is that we often get used to another car, and get used to that type of pedal. I remember when I drove the RHD EK9 Spoon Sports Civic once (way back in 1999) in an open lot, and had no idea how to heel/toe because the Honda pedals were spaced so widely.

I had to adapt my style to match the car... and to this day that's how I drive a new car.

jwlee7ucla 07-30-2013 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 1106673)
I've been doing the same since 1997, and I have found no issues with heel/toe in this car.

The only time(s) I have an issue is when I have to wear dress shoes for work.

-alex

how big is your feet?

mav1178 07-30-2013 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwlee7ucla (Post 1106675)
how big is your feet?

That's irrelevant.

See my edit above (and here):


Edit: the biggest issue with heel/toe is that we often get used to another car, and get used to that type of pedal. I remember when I drove the RHD EK9 Spoon Sports Civic once (way back in 1999) in an open lot, and had no idea how to heel/toe because the Honda pedals were spaced so widely.

I had to adapt my style to match the car... and to this day that's how I drive a new car.

-alex

86_ZN6 07-30-2013 05:20 PM

get a better pedal

jwlee7ucla 07-30-2013 05:24 PM

thanks for the comments, will get to work on it

D-Smith 07-30-2013 05:27 PM

when you press the brake pedal in it should get close enough to the gas pedal to where you can just roll your foot. thats what i do on this car because if anything the pedals are really close to each other compared to most cars i've driven.

Slartibartfast 07-30-2013 05:37 PM

I've been doing heel toe for about 20 years, no problems with this car. It's almost perfect. You just need to get used to it.

If anything, I'd rather have the gas pedal a little further away. The brake pedal passes my heel-toe sweetspot under hard braking. Though I think that will be fixed when when I switch pads, fluid and lines.

f0rge 07-30-2013 05:51 PM

I can't really "heel" the pedal in this car but I definitely "side-foot and toe"

Wellington 07-30-2013 06:30 PM

I needed some time to adapt from the pedals of an MX-5 but eventually everything went ok. I would say that heel-and-toeing in the FR-S is easier when the braking load is high enough to push the brake pedal at least down to the same level as the throttle pedal. Under light braking, the heel has to reach much lower than the toes and there is some risk that the brake pedal slips under the foot and create some hairy situation (been there...). I also think that under light braking, either there is no need to downshift or there is not that big a gap between the revs of each gear.


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