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aagun 07-28-2013 08:56 AM

install cruise control coz for me roll connector / steering sensor fail
 
hi all



before 6 month i install a cruise control for my 86 . that is not have it before .
yesterday i do fix the hole , i remove the airbag and the steering , fix the cover and install it all . i do play with roll connecter / steering sensor.

i start the car it is work 100/ but when is start driving it , that have a traction and abs warning . then i check the roll connecter , and it is broken. coz i don't set it in correct place.


i have to replace it both . but my airbag has single cable .. only the black one


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-4...C8/s778/12+-+9


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28364



what kind of this roll??

http://www.villagescionparts.com/sho...roduct=8465865


http://img.laximo.net/tj1204/source/...23ca80ff719d74




any Advice???

Wo6M 07-28-2013 09:22 AM

Grammer school?
Yours is atrocious.

To your question, I can't help you. Maybe use a wiring diagram?

DelayedBRZ 07-28-2013 10:19 AM

Troubleshooting start
 
Double check all of your connections to the component you changed. Next check any connectors you may have bumped while changing your cruise control. If all of those are ok then try disconnecting your battery for 10 minutes or so to reset the ECU.

DelayedBRZ 07-28-2013 10:30 AM

Check Poster's Location
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wo6M (Post 1101653)
Grammer school?
Yours is atrocious.

To your question, I can't help you. Maybe use a wiring diagram?

Sir, please check the OP's location before throwing a reply that may be considered rude. Aagun's location is United Arab Emirates (UAE), so even though his English may be very rough I am very sure his Arabic is spot on.

I find this forum impressive by the fact that the members are internationally connected by a single subject, the FT86 triplets.

fledonfoot 07-28-2013 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wo6M (Post 1101653)
Grammer school?
Yours is atrocious.

To your question, I can't help you. Maybe use a wiring diagram?

So if you can't help, why even bother posting?

Also, if you want to call somebody out on poor "grammar" who is obviously from a country that's not primarily English speaking, it might help IF YOU LEARN HOW TO SPELL YOURSELF.

At least he managed that.

Mind you, if you're telling him he should go to school in the small town in Indiana, please forgive my outburst.

rick 07-28-2013 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wo6M (Post 1101653)
Grammer school?
Yours is atrocious.

To your question, I can't help you. Maybe use a wiring diagram?


:offtopic: Pen*s skull sorry thats wrong grammar for Di*k Head

aagun 07-28-2013 08:33 PM

sorry about bad grammar:word:, i will do the best


i checked my car today , the horn doesn't work so i check horn fuse , relay and negative wire , all of it works fine also the horn harness is fine.
i disconnect the SRS system by take off the fuse that make it out of explosion , i guess the roll connecter is damage and i should replace it by new one .


that is my air bag connecter if it same in your FR-S (plz can u check that)
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/8133/vmv3.jpg

sirsol66 07-28-2013 10:32 PM

USA requires dual stage airbags, yours is a single. This is probably why you have the single connector while the others you have in the photo have two.

You wil need to source a single stage airbag, so USA ones will not be any help to you (probably neither will Canada). I think you'll have to try a local dealership, or someone local. Sorry!

aagun 07-29-2013 08:35 AM

i check the roll with my dealership ,there is no stock so they should make order for bring that parts from Subaru factory , it take 2 - 4 weeks , i have to wait for long time and never drive my car .


i will remove the roll again to check airbag wiring .

may i can remove the blue and yellow wire from the roll !


http://i.imgur.com/YPqTI.jpg

Ozzman 07-30-2013 12:31 AM

How exactly did you determine the Airbag is broken? Pics of yours may help. Did you remove the steering wheel itself from the steering column? If you did and turned anything around, it is most likely the clockspring that got damaged.

aagun 07-30-2013 03:12 PM

i order the parts ...

i have same pics for the roll connecter and steering sensor ..

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2339/6mlp.jpg


http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/1703/945h.jpg


http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1662/otd8.jpg

aagun 07-30-2013 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozzman (Post 1105227)
How exactly did you determine the Airbag is broken? Pics of yours may help. Did you remove the steering wheel itself from the steering column? If you did and turned anything around, it is most likely the clockspring that got damaged.


that what happened to me :thanks::cry:


roll connecter / steering sensor has 5 rounds , it set at the center , so it can round to the left 2.5 rounds and also 2.5 rounds to the right , what i do is set it from the center to the right by 1 round.


when i start the car after fixing the hole , there is damaged happens.
i start driving the car in the road the ABS / traction disconnected and the LED glows.

the reason is i turned the steering full turn to the right (2.5 roll round) but the Roll set at 1 right round so the full steering turns make the Roll turns 3.5 rounds.
so that is after the Roll range!! and the wire has been damaged


this picture for the HOLE
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8440/95qi.jpg

Ozzman 07-31-2013 12:44 AM

Yep, what you damaged is commonly referred to as the Clock Spring.

aagun 08-16-2013 10:17 AM

in the last time i remove the steering the horn didn't work !! so i have to fix it as fast as i can.


fixing rules
1 - i plan for my fix by using diagrams so i have to know what kind of connections that Roll use it .


http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/3566/jv5i.jpg


2 - i remove the roll connecter / steering sensor , and disassemble it as roll connecter and steering sensor.


3- disassemble the roll and check every cooper lines , i find the horn line cut so i change the horn line from pin NM (5) to pin NM (2). it is work fine.


http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9864/07oe.jpg


4 - i find Steering Angle Sensor Circuit test by search with C1231 code .




http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/7884/nco5.jpg



http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/8440/jgtj.jpg



http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/834/swkz.jpg





download the test

http://www.4shared.com/office/bL8JoH-A/cic12313.html








5- i did the test and the answer is Replace steering angle sensor.




thx


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