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WHITE 07-23-2013 09:57 PM

What material is the works pipe made from? Mild steel?

NoFear99 07-24-2013 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 86_ZN6 (Post 1089459)
let me know when your ready to get the midpipe. ill hook you up with a good deal :thumbsup:

I currently have :

Borla UEL Header
FA20club Overpipe
HKS Front pipe
Greddy sp elite

The mid pipe is the only part missing.

I did not know we had this option for that. I was thinking to have one custom build.

What is your best price on this.

Send me a pm.

Do you ship to canada ?

86_ZN6 07-24-2013 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoFear99 (Post 1092107)
I currently have :

Borla UEL Header
FA20club Overpipe
HKS Front pipe
Greddy sp elite

The mid pipe is the only part missing.

I did not know we had this option for that. I was thinking to have one custom build.

What is your best price on this.

Send me a pm.

Do you ship to canada ?


ill PM you right now :D

86_ZN6 07-24-2013 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WHITE (Post 1091630)
What material is the works pipe made from? Mild steel?

aluminized steel

Fast_Freddy 07-24-2013 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 86_ZN6 (Post 1092118)
aluminized steel

Seriously? Why would anyone downgrade from the oem 409 mid-pipe to aluminized pipe?

Do you have a dyno sheet for that 5-6whp gain from your Works mid-pipe?

86_ZN6 07-24-2013 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy (Post 1092159)
Seriously? Why would anyone downgrade from the oem 409 mid-pipe to aluminized pipe?

Do you have a dyno sheet for that 5-6whp gain from your Works mid-pipe?

all info here --> http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24472

as far as iv seen my oem pipe was already showing signs of corrosion. my modified pipe is till spotless

iv been running it for 8 months now

Fast_Freddy 07-24-2013 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 86_ZN6 (Post 1092168)
all info here --> http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24472

as far as iv seen my oem pipe was already showing signs of corrosion. my modified pipe is till spotless

iv been running it for 8 months now

I didn't find any dyno results for just the mid-pipe but I didn't read the entire thread either. I already know that the Works mid-pipe doesn't add 5-6whp without a shitload of other VE mods.

Are you really trying to argue that aluminized pipe will outlast 409 stainless? It might last half as long.

86_ZN6 07-24-2013 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy (Post 1092264)
I didn't find any dyno results for just the mid-pipe but I didn't read the entire thread either. I already know that the Works mid-pipe doesn't add 5-6whp without a shitload of other VE mods.

Are you really trying to argue that aluminized pipe will outlast 409 stainless? It might last half as long.

i will not argue with you. all these are based on experience buddy.

my car is an R&D car since day 1 and i do a lot of product testing especially on exhaust systems and turbo kits

here's a graph of the midpipe with axleback. no other mods installed

most axleback gets 2-3 gains give or take. so factor that out and you get 5-6 for just the midpipe


http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/...6EB4D720-1.jpg

Gardus@Supersprint 07-24-2013 04:31 AM

We tested different setups. The midpipe doesn't give any power gain, as well as the rear muffler.
The only way to gain real power on this car is to work on the front pipe and the headers.

Fast_Freddy 07-24-2013 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86_ZN6 (Post 1092309)
i will not argue with you. all these are based on experience buddy.

my car is an R&D car since day 1 and i do a lot of product testing especially on exhaust systems and turbo kits

here's a graph of the midpipe with axleback. no other mods installed

most axleback gets 2-3 gains give or take. so factor that out and you get 5-6 for just the midpipe

Sorry 'experienced buddy' but aluminized pipe and bogus hp claims = snake oil.

Caveat emptor.

WHITE 07-24-2013 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86_ZN6 (Post 1092118)
aluminized steel

Was going to buy, till this....why why why WHY?!?? I dont even care if it dropped 5-6 horse power and cost 100$ more, id have bought it if it was 409 or 304 stainless. Guess im back to making my own midpipe.

Gardus@Supersprint 07-24-2013 07:34 AM

Better keep the stock resonator than fit some mild steel component IMHO.

FR-Sizzle 08-17-2013 06:39 AM

First Works claim 10 hp on there drop in now 5-6 on a mid pipe. I would avoid these guys at all costs. Seems like they make up numbers or alter there dyno runs just so they can get parts sold.


2 vendors already said otherwise.

So would getting a Greddy SP elite and over/front pipe work well as other cat backs?

Mikem53 08-17-2013 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy (Post 1092372)
Sorry 'experienced buddy' but aluminized pipe and bogus hp claims = snake oil.

Caveat emptor.

I've never seen so many aftermarket parts and vendors spring up out of nowhere and overnight as they have for the twins. From what I have observed... There are more crap products, BS and fake promises than there is in congress..
Just because something is shiny and has a cool name or logo doesn't make it worth buying..


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