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FnFast 07-17-2013 04:26 PM

Ready for Heel Toe Action
 
So the BRZ is my first manual car, but I was not a newb with manuals. I feel I am ready to really start improving on my manual skills. Is it possible to heel toe with our peddles or what?

Starscream15 07-17-2013 04:31 PM

Yes.

I find it easier to use the side of my foot to blip with the stock pedals rather than normal heal-toe. Though, both work fairly well.

raul 07-17-2013 04:31 PM

Yes, it's possible to heel and toe with our pedals. I do it while at the track and sometimes even on the street to put less stress on the clutch.

pmdc 07-17-2013 04:41 PM

Yep. Although more of a 'toe-side' with the pedal setup in the FRS.

Mrpolarbear 07-17-2013 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pmdc (Post 1076735)
Yep. Although more of a 'toe-side' with the pedal setup in the FRS.

This. Makes it irritating to try barefoot~

wheelhaus 07-17-2013 07:26 PM

I heel toe all around town, it's just habit and muscle memory now. You do not need special pedals or anything goofy, just practice, practice, practice. The harder you apply the brakes, the easier it is because you have a firmer pedal to work with. Practicing under lighter braking loads helps improve muscle memory and sensitivity.

Personally, I prefer the inner ball and big toe to remain on the brake pedal, and the outer edge of my heel to catch the gas pedal.

Edit- good thin-sole driving shoes help.

GTB/ZR-1 07-17-2013 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FnFast (Post 1076691)
So the BRZ is my first manual car, but I was not a newb with manuals. I feel I am ready to really start improving on my manual skills. Is it possible to heel toe with our peddles or what?

Your best bet is to ask someone who's very proficient @ it & have them break it all down for you when you booth have an hour or 2 to spare. As stated, it's going to take A LOT of practice to become second nature.

You'll eventually br able to do it in any car (except maybe a 1st Gen Viper lol) w/o thinking twice...

Cjymiller 07-17-2013 09:48 PM

Driving school. Fun and beneficial!

TylerLieberman 07-17-2013 09:53 PM

If you haven't yet, try rev match downshifting a few times too. Doing it gets you used to blipping the accelerator when downshifting. After that, all you're doing is adding brake input

FnFast 07-17-2013 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TylerLieberman (Post 1077652)
If you haven't yet, try rev match downshifting a few times too. Doing it gets you used to blipping the accelerator when downshifting. After that, all you're doing is adding brake input

I started doing that. I have a CBR600rr and the concept makes sense. Especially downshifting around a corner... do that wrong and you lock up the rear wheel and that's never good. Haha.

None of my friends I know are great drivers. So Ill watch some youtube videos and practice and practice.

BryanGT 07-18-2013 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by FnFast (Post 1077682)
Especially downshifting around a corner... do that wrong and you lock up the rear wheel and that's never good. Haha.

If you shift in a corner (when you're at or near the limit) you're doing it very wrong. Only a maintenance throttle, some trail-braking and exit acceleration should be done there, you need to be in the right gear before turn-in.

pmdc 07-18-2013 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanGT (Post 1078043)
If you shift in a corner (when you're at or near the limit) you're doing it very wrong. Only a maintenance throttle, some trail-braking and exit acceleration should be done there, you need to be in the right gear before turn-in.

This. Downshifting at the limit is a nice way to spin into the wall.

FnFast 07-18-2013 01:22 AM

well im not talking about pushing the limit and down braking. Sometimes you have to slow down going around a corner. I have 33k miles of ride time and it happens. I am not your summer joy rider and put 500 miles a summer.

bkblitzed 07-18-2013 01:24 AM

For me when i wanted to learn how to heel and toe i just did it in my drive way. Pull the e-brake, turn on car and practice the motion. Once you got that down, practice on a semi deserted road so you dont brake check someone hard. I dont usually heel and toe on the road but rev matching is second nature to me. Some people do it with the side of their foot, but i do the full motion just because it's more comfortable for me.


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