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Figo 07-16-2013 05:51 PM

Question: Is Rebadge Legal (Toyota emblem on FR-S)
 
I am in New Jersey and I am thinking to rebadge my FR-S.

I know it is definitely illegal if you put a subaru emblem on a Scion. Because one of my friends rebadge a Lamb emblem on his Altima and was pulled over. It was a sad story and he paid a lot.

But what about Toyota emblem on FR-S? Is it legal to put a Toyota emblem on a Scion? Can anyone give me a reliable answer? Just do not want to be pulled over.

Thank you guys.

Ghost 86 07-16-2013 06:00 PM

I'm pretty sure on my title and insurance it says Toyota as the make. Even on my temp tag it said Toyota you should be fine it's like putting Honda emblems on an Acura you get pulled over show them where it says Toyota

forzajuve 07-16-2013 06:11 PM

It is going to be a state by state matter. It all depends on where you live and what laws are set in place, no matter how ridiculous they are. However, the fact that re-badging in certain state is considered illegal is quite ridiculous. Not a surprise though since there are unconstitutional laws being implemented more than ever...good luck.

Trashed675 07-16-2013 06:21 PM

My insurance card says toyota scion frs. So you'd probably be okay with a toyota badge. Subaru would be a little more tricky i would think, unless you wanted to start pulling off all the interior parts that say subaru on it. Its your roll of the dice though.

Calavera 07-16-2013 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trashed675 (Post 1074105)
My insurance card says toyota scion frs. So you'd probably be okay with a toyota badge. Subaru would be a little more tricky i would think, unless you wanted to start pulling off all the interior parts that say subaru on it. Its your roll of the dice though.

That's one of the reasons I have not rebadged. I would need anything that says scion to say Toyota in and out of the car. To much work and coin right there.

Snoopyalien24 07-16-2013 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calavera (Post 1074208)
That's one of the reasons I have not rebadged. I would need anything that says scion to say Toyota in and out of the car. To much work and coin right there.

VIN

That is all

OrbitalEllipses 07-16-2013 07:08 PM

Question: Does grammar good?

mush 07-16-2013 09:58 PM

so ur telling me, itll be illegal to rebadge my FRS to Maserati?

FRSBRZGT86FAN 07-16-2013 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mush (Post 1074689)
so ur telling me, itll be illegal to rebadge my FRS to Maserati?

Yes, if Maserati isn't Scion maserati or toyota maserati:lol:

Calavera 07-16-2013 10:12 PM

My FR-S is not a Maserati, it only plays one in Facebook!! I got at least three comments, "dude wtf? how did you afford that Maserati?!?". Lol

FnFast 07-16-2013 10:29 PM

I named my Grey Hound Maserati... will I be sued?? That's stupid. Sooo people who wear a Ferrari shirt and don't own a Ferrari should be arrested then. haha.

FR-S FI 07-16-2013 10:36 PM

So I get pulled over and the officer says, uhem, your regs/vins says scion, but you have Toyota badges, and I pop the hood and he sees Subaru plastered or stamped everywhere, I'm like dude pass that stuff your smokin' over here I think your seeing shit...

Clembo 07-16-2013 10:37 PM

A good percentage of what we do every day is illegal somewhere. Just sayin' ...

jybrd 07-16-2013 11:04 PM

agreed^

Brndn704 07-17-2013 12:09 AM

I figure I PAID for MY car. It's in MY name. I can do whatever the FUDGE I want to do to it.

Dustin2JZ 07-17-2013 02:52 AM

Just so guys know, the reason it illegal to rebadge a car to a different make is because it looks criminal to law enforcement.

Let's just say you commit a crime and witnesses say your in a tan 4 door Ferrari.
It's just like if you have blue LEDs or lights on your car you can get a ticket for impersonating a police officer. Cuz that guys 95 civic with Blu under glow looks just like a highway patrol car.


Luckily I live in Mississippi, so I don't have to worry about much street legal mumbo jumbo.

I'm pretty sure I could ride around in R34 skyline and claim its a 240 and get away with it.

Wes 07-17-2013 02:58 AM

That funny, my dad told me about this coworkers son that has a FRS with Toyota badges and he got pulled over for it. I would say it all depends on the cop. But hey, our engine bay does say toyota haha

Dustin2JZ 07-17-2013 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Wes (Post 1075296)
That funny, my dad told me about this coworkers son that has a FRS with Toyota badges and he got pulled over for it. I would say it all depends on the cop. But hey, our engine bay does say toyota haha


And yes. It is absolutely up to the cop.

And I would think you could get out of any associated fines by changing the badges back.

Tromatic 07-17-2013 03:01 AM

It should be illegal to stick a Lamborghini badge on an Altima. The charge should be criminal stupidity. I'd be willing to bet that a person who stuck that badge on a Nissan did not get pulled over because the cop was a Lambo fan and was wondering what model it was.

#944_10_Series_FRS 07-17-2013 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tromatic (Post 1075308)
It should be illegal to stick a Lamborghini badge on an Altima. The charge should be criminal stupidity. I'd be willing to bet that a person who stuck that badge on a Nissan did not get pulled over because the cop was a Lambo fan and was wondering what model it was.

So does the owner of a Lamborghini who rebadges his car to an Altima get pull over?

Anthony 07-17-2013 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dustin2JZ (Post 1075290)
Luckily I live in Mississippi, so I don't have to worry about much street legal mumbo jumbo.

Mississipps unite! My DD has been illegal as balls for years and all cops care about is what the number on their little radar/laser device says.

I can see why rebadging would be illegal, but I'd never heard of it before. Makes me want to buy the most haggard Geo Metro I can find, badge it as a Koenigsegg, then drive around a lot.

Figo 07-17-2013 09:27 AM

Cant agree any more..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dustin2JZ (Post 1075290)
Just so guys know, the reason it illegal to rebadge a car to a different make is because it looks criminal to law enforcement.

Let's just say you commit a crime and witnesses say your in a tan 4 door Ferrari.
It's just like if you have blue LEDs or lights on your car you can get a ticket for impersonating a police officer. Cuz that guys 95 civic with Blu under glow looks just like a highway patrol car.


Luckily I live in Mississippi, so I don't have to worry about much street legal mumbo jumbo.

I'm pretty sure I could ride around in R34 skyline and claim its a 240 and get away with it.


SloS14 07-17-2013 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FnFast (Post 1074785)
I named my Grey Hound Maserati...

I named mine Pony, although she definitely looks more like a deer.

TRD-X 07-17-2013 11:41 AM

I don't think it would be a problem putting Toyota emblems on the FR-S.
If for some reason you would get a ticket I personally think the Judge would throw the ticket out and not fine you in any state.

Really lets look at this emblem vs car thing.

1 - is it a Scion..??

2 - is it a Toyota..??

3 - is it a Subaru..??

This is on Scion's website: 2013 Scion, a marque of Toyota Motor Sales USA, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Scion is a registered trademark of Toyota Motor Corporation.

But wait a minute unlike my other Toyota/Scion cars there's nothing on the door identification sticker saying the FR-S is made by Toyota or Scion it states the car is made by Fuji Heavy Industries.

My point is there's to many legal loopholes you can use get out of the ticket.:thumbsup:

Dustin2JZ 07-17-2013 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRD-X (Post 1075806)
I don't think it would be a problem putting Toyota emblems on the FR-S.
If for some reason you would get a ticket I personally think the Judge would throw the ticket out and not fine you in any state.

Really lets look at this emblem vs car thing.

1 - is it a Scion..??

2 - is it a Toyota..??

3 - is it a Subaru..??

This is on Scion's website: 2013 Scion, a marque of Toyota Motor Sales USA, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Scion is a registered trademark of Toyota Motor Corporation.

But wait a minute unlike my other Toyota/Scion cars there's nothing on the door identification sticker saying the FR-S is made by Toyota or Scion it states the car is made by Fuji Heavy Industries.

My point is there's to many legal loopholes you can use get out of the ticket.:thumbsup:

I agree. The fact is, it's still a Toyota.

SilentAngel 07-17-2013 02:58 PM

I don't know about other states but i know it's fine in Cali, which is y i put Subaru Badges on my FR-S lol. I prefer the look of the Subaru badges over the look of the Scion or Toyota badges.

dsmx17 07-17-2013 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Figo (Post 1074020)
I am in New Jersey : a Lamb emblem on his Altima.


And thats your problem right there.

bestwheelbase 07-17-2013 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FnFast (Post 1074785)
Sooo people who wear a Ferrari shirt and don't own a Ferrari should be arrested then. haha.

People who wear Ferrari shirts, period. :D

I kid I kid!

Tromatic 07-17-2013 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 1075390)
Mississipps unite! My DD has been illegal as balls for years and all cops care about is what the number on their little radar/laser device says.

I can see why rebadging would be illegal, but I'd never heard of it before. Makes me want to buy the most haggard Geo Metro I can find, badge it as a Koenigsegg, then drive around a lot.

Imagine how jealous your FR-S driving buddies will be. The badge makes the car, after all.
Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentAngel (Post 1076417)
I don't know about other states but i know it's fine in Cali, which is y i put Subaru Badges on my FR-S lol. I prefer the look of the Subaru badges over the look of the Scion or Toyota badges.

Congrats, you have jumped the shark on the rebadging asshattery.
Quote:

Originally Posted by #944_10_Series_FRS (Post 1075325)
So does the owner of a Lamborghini who rebadges his car to an Altima get pull over?

That's a low-profile NJ drug dealer right there! Like I said, I'd be willing to bet that the Nissaghini owner gave the cops some other reason to pull him over. Even in NJ, "could not believe retard had Lambo badges on Nissan" is probably not PC.

campy 07-17-2013 10:14 PM

I'm also from NJ, I got pulled over not too long ago and the cop asked if I had the correct plates on the car, since it was coming up in the system as a Toyota. I had to explain the whole toyota/scion relationship to him, and why this particular scion would be registered as a toyota.

All of which could have been avoided if I just rebadged the car.

Tromatic 07-17-2013 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by campy (Post 1077706)
I'm also from NJ, I got pulled over not too long ago and the cop asked if I had the correct plates on the car, since it was coming up in the system as a Toyota. I had to explain the whole toyota/scion relationship to him, and why this particular scion would be registered as a toyota.

All of which could have been avoided if I just rebadged the car.

That right there is why a person might get snatched. Any sort of mismatch in the cop/DMV/DoJ/NSA database is going to arouse cop suspicion. Every time a cop is behind me here in PDX, I can see him giving me the rectal probe on his data-thingy. I do my best to look shady, so there may be a reason. I'll bet the FR-S is creeping up the stolen car list, and is also popular with aspiring drug dealers. Never invite the man into your life, as they say.

Tromatic 07-18-2013 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dustin2JZ (Post 1075945)
I agree. The fact is, it's still a Toyota.

It's a Subaru.

OICU812 07-18-2013 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tromatic (Post 1077954)
It's a Subaru.

Insert "Grumpy Cat" photo here with "NO".

xsuperbeex 07-18-2013 06:24 AM

Should have told the cop the car has an identity crisis... on papers, it thought it is american so it called itself scion... *open the hood and point at engine cover and oil filter* even in japan it already have 2 identity toyota and subaru... and end with: you guys are the one with the dmv.. you tell the car is.. lol.. most probably the cop will end up crossed eyed being so confused

frslee 07-18-2013 08:27 AM

I think all Scion cars are listed as Toyota in the registration card. My girlfriend has 05 tC and our both registration card listed make as Toyota.

But then... FR-S is made in Subaru Fuji Industry....
This car is just a mix up!!!

Tromatic 07-18-2013 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xsuperbeex (Post 1078433)
Should have told the cop the car has an identity crisis... on papers, it thought it is american so it called itself scion... *open the hood and point at engine cover and oil filter* even in japan it already have 2 identity toyota and subaru... and end with: you guys are the one with the dmv.. you tell the car is.. lol.. most probably the cop will end up crossed eyed being so confused

The problem with that is the that the cops confusion usually wins.

Tromatic 07-18-2013 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OICU812 (Post 1078404)
Insert "Grumpy Cat" photo here with "NO".

Is there not far more Subaru in this car than Toyota?

OICU812 07-18-2013 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tromatic (Post 1078914)
Is there not far more Subaru in this car than Toyota?

Guess you're assuming by stamps on body panels. This has been hashed out and discussed at least a hundred times since I've been on this site... So do a search on origination of the car etc, in end Tada San invisioned it, designed it, etc etc so ya collaboration but ultimately Toyota...
And Toyota owns part of Subaru plant, and on and on...

SilentAngel 07-18-2013 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tromatic (Post 1078914)
Is there not far more Subaru in this car than Toyota?

Subaru engine, Mostly Subaru suspension, Toyota Injection System, Toyota Design, Toyota Headlights (on the FR-S for sure, not sure about the BRZ).
3 Scion Badges because they wanted to.

jariten 07-18-2013 01:26 PM

In most states, including New Jersey I believe, it is only illegal to rebadge cars if it is done for an 'unlawful purpose'. So if you just like the look you're good. If you did it after comitting a crime so that the car would be harder to identify, or if you tried to sell it as some 'special edition' (fraud) you would be in violation.

If you do rebadge it you will get extra attention from the police just like you will with any modifications...it's part of the game.


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