Scion to Toyota badge
 

So i put in an order for 2 Toyota emblems to replace the scion badges i have right now on my FRS.

And i had this weird feeling that i was being some sort of a poser thinking i drive a GT 86...

Is that what we're doing? posing that we drive another car? but it's the same car, or.........

:iono:

Depends how you look at it. Some will assume you are doing it cause you hate Scion, some will say its confusing and so on. I did it cause to me the FR-S and BRZ are both birth children of the 86/GT86 to begin with. Without Tada Sans vision and will to build & design the car in the first place the FR-S/BRZs would never have been born. Being Tada San is Toyotas chief engineer you decide if you feel bad for putting on Toyota badges, personally I do not and it feels suited? :iono:

I don't hate Scion, and did not hate the badges, I just pay tribute to originator in all cases is all....Each to their own..

That was beautiful :bow:

I chose to keep the Scion badges since Toyota wants to give their small division boost with the FR-S. Also, I had no idea Scion was looked down upon until I joined this forum. The original Tc was a cool car to me.

To each his own. If you want to rebadge, go for it. Who cares what anybody thinks? Live like you wanna live!

I have the Toyota badges and the GT86 badge on the car. I like the car with the Toyota badges. The car is an 86/GT86 in Toyota's eyes and in mine. I chose to convert it back to that because that's what it is everywhere else in the world and it's not mine/US markets fault that the fledgling Scion brand needs better sales numbers.

Poser! Will you move the steering wheel to the right side as well? (Lol)

The development and early concept was named the Toyota FT-86 and not the Scion FR-S or Subaru BRZ.
Toyota wanted a new car in the Scion line up so we have the FR-S here in north america.

Really Toyota is the parent company of Scion so what's the big deal..??

My personal rant for today......so the Subaru owners always call the FR-S a stepchild so who is the stepchild..??
In my opinion the car stated off it's life as a Toyota FT-86 so the BRZ is like the FR-S the poor stepchild of the FT-86.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._FT-86_001.JPG

Maybe someday our original Scion FR-S badging will be rare enough to make the cars worth more. Never know.

Same concept as people who put silvia badges on 240s and red hinda badges on acuras.

Mad tyte jdm

All true, but Subaru did a majority of the engineering work. All the things people love about driving it is because of Subaru. So it's not a true Toyota.

But I think everyone can live happy by just calling it the Twins. And that it's BOTH a Toyota and a Subaru.

The only reason people don't really want to give Scion any credit is because that brand was really made to target the fast and furious crowd because of the popularity of the modding scene at the time.

The car has already the 86 badges on the fenders, so whatever you want to do man do it. The Scion FR-S is just the north-american trim of the car.

I kept the scion badges (for now) just because if I don't change ALL my scion emblems, I will personally go nuts and time to time be reminded that I am posing as a gt86 when my steering wheel (where I spend my time) screams scion at me.

But you put the order in already just slap those badges on and drive proud!

Technically Toyota rebadged the car first to a Scion so they could Mad Tyte USDM!

Just as honda rebadged how many cars to acura and nissan rebadged how many silvias and fairladys to 240s and 300zx/350z to be sold in the US market?

Again....same concept.

Car is sold one way overseas, and another here stateside. We want the badges that come on the car from overseas so we change them. This car is going to be aurgued about as much as people argue over whether a nissan is a 240sx, 200sx, silvia, or s14.....

Gt86/BRZ/FRS... They're the same damn thing

How did Subaru do a majority of the engineering work..??
This is a all new engine with both Subaru and Toyota contributing to the design and Toyota already made the body design. :iono:

I quote with no hate towards Subaru but to much credit is given to Subaru for this car seeing how they didn't have a RWD car for so many years.

Toyota, led by project leader led by Tetsuya Tada, offered Subaru involvement in their sport coupé project, co-developing a new boxer engine known as the D4-S.

On a side note who came up with the name "Twins" inquiring minds want to know....:iono:

Twins means Two or am I missing something here as there's four models the Toyota FT-86 l Toyota GT 86 |Scion FR-S | Subaru BRZ |..?? :lol:

Poser.

maybe i should rebadge it as the scottish porsche. personally i would prefer toyota or subaru badges but when people constantly ask what it is i just tell them its my mid life crisis car.

This is me too. I priced out all the badges, center caps, etc and was ready to Toyota-ize my car, and then I saw the price on the steering wheel...

lol ok want to get into semantics don't you?

FYI The boxer engine is FA20. D4-S is simply just Toyota's direct injection system, the engine is still all Subaru. What other toyota do you know made boxer engines? None. Subaru makes them in all their cars.

I'm simply stating, underneath they are all the same car.

But if you don't believe Subaru engineered it, then please watch this video [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co4tMJ_4d1A"]New SUBARU BRZ In Detail Film Part 1 - 2013 New Car Review HD - YouTube[/ame]

Actually I don't have to say much more other than for you to watch that video.

I'm actually truly surprised on the level of ignorance you have on the subject. I thought all FRS/GT86/BRZ owners understood what the car is.

It is just badges. Do what you want if it makes you happy.

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Sports_800"]Toyota Sports 800 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

So you call me ignorat for say the car's engine was codeveloped by Toyota and Subaru and not a Subaru only engine..??

I don't see this saying only Subaru.

Powering two vehicles that are on the Car and Driver Magazine’s “10Best Car” of the 2013 list – the Subaru BRZ and the Scion FR-S, the “FA20” Boxer engine is compact, lightweight and has a low-center of-gravity. Combining with Toyota’s “4-DS” direct injection and port injection technology, the engine produces 200 horsepower at 7,000 rpm and 151 lb.-ft of torque at 6400-6600 rpm.

The car is a Toyota design with a Subaru joint partnership
to make it of which Toyota owns a part of Fuji Heavy Industries.

was thinking of swapping in Toyota badges as well, but after seeing people in Japan swapping theirs for Scion badges, I decided to pretend I'm a guy in Japan who thinks he's cooler than other Japanese guys.

Personally, I have the toyota badges on mine because I think they just look nicer with the car than the scion badges do. And if anyone says you're a poser, explain to them how the plate inside the door says it's manufactured by subaru, you bought it from scion, and everywhere else it's a toyota--so really you can just pick whatever the hell you want it to be.

The bottom line is this rebadge your car if it's what you like as your the one paying for it.;)

As for the great question about these cars for all the Subaru BRZ owners that like to post about their car being better than the FR-S all I have to say is you wouldn't have your BRZ if it wasn't for Toyota end of the story.:lol:

It's not only the BRZ people that think their car is better than the FR-S in Europe alot of GT86 people think the same thing that it's a stripped and cheapened version of the real GT86 and just makes the car's image cheaper overall and find badging the FR-S to the Toyota is sad because it doesent have all the thing's that makes the GT86 different and makes people that dont know the car think that the FR-S is the GT86 while the the GT86 is actually quite nicer looking.. it's somewhat the same to people with full optioned Audi/Bmw's that look down on people that buy the same car with no options at all because if you buy the car you should buy it the way it's supposed to be.. sry for my english btw this is not my opinion...

Slap a Supra badge on it for all you should care about what other people think. Do what makes you feel good and what you feel looks good. They don't have to see it every day, but you do!

I love my Toyota badges not because it makes me happier to be driving a Toyota (I think the tC is nicer than the Corolla, so I don't really understand the hate, and ist (xA in US) and bB (xB in US) were incredibly stupid names so I don't believe Toyota does everything right!), but like a small modification that I did that is fitting to the car and what I believe is a visual upgrade.

Enjoy it!

I put on toyota badges because it gives the feeling of heritage. Scion is a marketing scheme but toyota is the maker. I prefer to represent the creator and not the guy in hip clothing selling the product.

I'm gonna rebadge my BRZ to a Scion.


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I thought i was gonna rebadge to toyota when i got the car.
I have the money to rebadge everything including the steering wheel but its just a waste imo

I wish some dude in Japan just wanted to trade me cars...

win win situation eh

:fighting0040:

Opinions on rebadging to LEXUS???

To like a, cadillac?:lol:

You contradict yourself. When did I ever say it's ONLY SUBARU. I said a majority of the engineering work is Subaru. Why is that so hard for you to stomach? And the quote you put just proved my point even further. The FA20 is based on a current FB20 in which has the Toyota direct injection system. I JUST SAID THAT. lol. So yes, you are being purposely ignorant on the subject. Does this help you sleep at night or something? I've even said that it's BOTH and Toyota and Subaru. I don't get you?

Wheres the luxury? Plastic rattling interior, sport seats with faux leather bits and a stiff suspension? Pointless.

Nice Lexus FRS.

The reason I want to rebadge the car is because I just like the name GT86 better than FRS. It's like Nissan, in Japan they have great sounding names for cars like the Silvia, FairLady, and here we get 240sx and 300zx. I just feel it has more personality than Front-engine Rear-wheel-drive Sport.

Hence the poor reliability and rattles already...

...Just messin' with you Subie guy :P But seriously, it will be funny to see the Toyota vs Subaru argument reverse if reliable on these cars gets even worse. All the Toyota fan boys will start claiming that Subaru designed the car and the Subaru fan boys will start claiming that Toyota did all the design.

False.... this has been well discussed and documented actually. The Subaru naming on all the parts if because of where it was built as an agreement. Being that Tada San was the one who designed the look "obviously Toyota not Subaru as Subaru is not a curvy company" AE86, 2000 etc... as the baseline car design....The frame and much more was completely designed by Toyota, the suspension and the motor and more of course is all Subaru minus some Toyota engine features/mods etc... Much of yes a collaboration in the end.

As it also has been very well documented and discussed the Subaru people originally wanted nothing to do with a non turbo non awd car, at that point Toyota would have built it themselves and went with a rotary motor instead etc... Utilizing Toyotas ownership in Subaru and geo graphical placement of the Fuji plant it made sense to build it at that plant, Toyotas main plants are at full steam anyhow. All the BRZ/FRS/96s roll of the same line etc...Outside of exterior difference aside from moustache and badges.. the spring rates differ on the BRZ cause they thought for the Subaru crowd its more to their feel "what used to" of the AWD series they have made for years etc...

In conclusion I am happy that the joint venture was made and that Toyota showed Subaru it was worth the joint venture to come alive other wise final results may have been different.

If anyone needs multiple links to prove any or all of that I am sure when have time I can post for you but it's all buried here and been discussed and argued about several, several times.....

Was wondering if anyone would be willing to do this lol, hell i will buy you scion badges if you do it post pics and rock it for the life of the vehicle