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jau 07-11-2013 02:46 AM

T1R B52 Street and Track Coilover Review
 
Hi guys and girls, I have installed T1R B52 Coilover with Cusco control arm two days ago. (Big thanks to Ben and Jacky in A&J Racing) Today I am writing a review of this coilover. :thumbup:

Description
T1R offers 44mm piston MONOTUBE tube design for maximum dampening ranges for street and track. T1R also offers camber, 30 way rebound adjustable, ride height/stroke and spring preload adjustable for wide range suspension setting and tuning. Made out of CNC machined chromoly steel (with rust-proof coating) built for heat dissiapation and to reduce unsprung weight. Comes with front pillowball uppermount , adjust wrenches and necessicity hardware for installation. SAE9254 Cold forming springs are equipped with the damper kit.

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/...82119468_n.jpg

Why T1R?
-It is track proven coilover at low cost
-It remains the comfort for DD
-It is rebuild able
-wide range of height adjustment

My Set up
-custom spring rate, 10k all around
-custom alignment with corner balanced
-ride height about 1 finger gap all around
-Cusco rear lower control arm
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/...65617854_n.jpg

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/...20685522_n.jpg

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/...22891200_n.jpg

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/...53254707_n.jpg

First impression:

Before installing the coilover, I was running with my OEM suspension and I really like the stiffness of the oem shocks, it gives me a sporty ride but also remain the comfort for DD.

After installing the T1R B52 coilover with the cusco lower control arm, the steering response is surprisingly good comparing to the oem suspension. Also the steering becomes very sensitive as i can feel every bump on the road, which i like it very much. Currently my rebound is at the softest setting for running in the coils, it is slightly softer than the oem shocks. I will be switching to a stiffer setting once I run in my new coils.:burnrubber:


I will be going on a track event in the beginning of august, I will be keep you guys update of my feedback with the T1R B52 coilover on a track :happy0180:

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/...26527536_n.jpg

OICU812 07-11-2013 03:44 AM

Cool Ben is a good guy, just too busy sometimes it seems. I am very suprised at your choice of spring rates, you must really like to feel everything that is friken stiff man!

WHO is actual maker of the T1R anyhow?

jau 07-11-2013 11:54 PM

The T1R products are made by AJR :)

Captain Snooze 07-12-2013 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jau (Post 1063156)
The T1R products are made by AJR :)

AJRacing do not make their own coilovers/struts. One can see "MAX" in the pic so I am guessing they are Powered by MAX. It is quite possible the valving is to AJR's specifications though.

jau 08-28-2013 12:36 AM

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Update:
So I went to the Ridge Motorsport Park with my T1R B52 Coilover. I am using Toyo R888 tires.

In the morning, I was figuring out the lines and braking zone as I am new to this car. I found that the frs has a hard time to pass any car in the passing zone but I loved the way it handles on every corner. My overall impression of the T1R coilover with the alignment set up is very well balanced and neutral on the track. The car does not have too much under or oversteer which i like it very much.

At the end of the day, my best lap time is 2:04 at the ridge, which is 2 seconds faster than my previous car (Acura TSX). I was very impressed how well this car did on the track with my current setup. I will definitely bring my frs back on a track again someday this year.

Anorexic 86 08-28-2013 04:23 AM

^^^Function and form^^^

Look at that contact patch!

Bravo

:burnrubber:

Wheel (size/offset) and tire specs?

jau 08-28-2013 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anorexic 86 (Post 1172336)
^^^Function and form^^^

Look at that contact patch!

Bravo

:burnrubber:

Wheel (size/offset) and tire specs?

Thanks :D

I am running 18 x 9.5 +40 with 255 35 18 tires

OICU812 08-30-2013 05:49 AM

So to fit those wheels on your car how low are you and what were your final front and back camber and toe settings?

Also any rubbing and did you have to roll the fenders?

Dimman 08-30-2013 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OICU812 (Post 1060545)
Cool Ben is a good guy, just too busy sometimes it seems. I am very suprised at your choice of spring rates, you must really like to feel everything that is friken stiff man!

WHO is actual maker of the T1R anyhow?

These are just rebranded, marked up price Megan (or some other cheap Taiwanese brand, I can't remember) coilovers.

jau 08-31-2013 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OICU812 (Post 1177986)
So to fit those wheels on your car how low are you and what were your final front and back camber and toe settings?

Also any rubbing and did you have to roll the fenders?

I am running about 1 finger gap all around, front camber -3 and rear -2.2, toe 0 front and rear.

I did not do any fender work, front doesn't have any issue. But It was rubbing the rear bumper tab in the beginning, but no more rubbing after the track day, lol. the tire shaved off part of the bumper tab and rear bumper still holding strong.

jau 08-31-2013 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 1178064)
These are just rebranded, marked up price Megan (or some other cheap Taiwanese brand, I can't remember) coilovers.

It is possible they manufactured the coilovers in Taiwan. But they are pretty good coilovers in my opinion, and it does the job on the track.

OICU812 08-31-2013 11:29 AM

-3 up front wow was that to ensure to clear or avoid rubbing issues up front or just personal preference? How does it handle on street in this setup?

jau 09-01-2013 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OICU812 (Post 1180631)
-3 up front wow was that to ensure to clear or avoid rubbing issues up front or just personal preference? How does it handle on street in this setup?

-3 up front wasnt the purpose to avoid rubbing issues, it was personal preference for track set up :).

it handles great on a street, it doesnt have much under or over steer like i was on the track, turn in is still very sharp even with alot wider tires. But the car does hydroplane quite often in the rain coz of the r compound tires and the -3 camber

Dimman 09-01-2013 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jau (Post 1180432)
It is possible they manufactured the coilovers in Taiwan. But they are pretty good coilovers in my opinion, and it does the job on the track.

Your 1st post 'opinion' here is an advertisement.

AJR doesn't make these, they pick whatever is cheap off of a site like Alibaba.com and put their name on them. They posted up here a while ago with some coilovers for this car that were just Impreza ones, because they fit. They had screwed up spring rates and tried to explain that it didn't matter because the struts were inverted and made the rate less, which is an unbelievably stupid and ignorant statement.

They also were trying to get away without being a paying sponsor when they did it.

So if AJR is now buying a real 86 design for Bor Chong or Megan or K-Sport and relabelled them, that's a tiny improvement. If you want a cheap coilover, skip these T1R and save money by buying straight from the Taiwanese manufacturers.

jau 09-01-2013 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 1182528)
Your 1st post 'opinion' here is an advertisement.

AJR doesn't make these, they pick whatever is cheap off of a site like Alibaba.com and put their name on them. They posted up here a while ago with some coilovers for this car that were just Impreza ones, because they fit. They had screwed up spring rates and tried to explain that it didn't matter because the struts were inverted and made the rate less, which is an unbelievably stupid and ignorant statement.

They also were trying to get away without being a paying sponsor when they did it.

So if AJR is now buying a real 86 design for Bor Chong or Megan or K-Sport and relabelled them, that's a tiny improvement. If you want a cheap coilover, skip these T1R and save money by buying straight from the Taiwanese manufacturers.

I dont find the point for me to advertise for the coilover as i do not work for AJR. I wouldn't spending my time to write the review if i did not like my coilovers.

A lot of aftermarket brands are sharing the same manufacture coz owning a factory is very costly. I wouldn't be surprised if AJR is sharing same manufactory with other brands. Buying cheap coils like from alibaba.com and relable them is just your assumption

mswhong 09-01-2013 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jau (Post 1183177)
I dont find the point for me to advertise for the coilover as i do not work for AJR. I wouldn't spending my time to write the review if i did not like my coilovers.

A lot of aftermarket brands are sharing the same manufacture coz owning a factory is very costly. I wouldn't be surprised if AJR is sharing same manufactory with other brands. Buying cheap coils like from alibaba.com and relable them is just your assumption

I'm pretty sure they do rebrand other designs as their own coils..

ajrcow 09-06-2013 05:30 PM

I am also running the T1R coil-overs (F.6k R.6k) with the same wheel setup but the only difference is, I am running Advan AD08 255/35/18 and less aggressive alignment. My ride is comfy and after dialing it up, it reduces a fair amount of body roll, I love them !

I got mine installed at AJR. They did an excellent job doing all the settings like corner balance, ride height adjusted and aligned. They also have me to adjusted the car to suit my driving :thumbup: I came from FF so at this stage, I prefer more understeer before I can control side ways :bellyroll:

The suspension held up very well at the track and when my instructor was driving my car, he is very impressed with the setup. Just a little more info for my instructor, he races Spec Miatas.


Quote:

Your 1st post 'opinion' here is an advertisement.

AJR doesn't make these, they pick whatever is cheap off of a site like Alibaba.com and put their name on them. They posted up here a while ago with some coilovers for this car that were just Impreza ones, because they fit. They had screwed up spring rates and tried to explain that it didn't matter because the struts were inverted and made the rate less, which is an unbelievably stupid and ignorant statement.

They also were trying to get away without being a paying sponsor when they did it.

So if AJR is now buying a real 86 design for Bor Chong or Megan or K-Sport and relabelled them, that's a tiny improvement. If you want a cheap coilover, skip these T1R and save money by buying straight from the Taiwanese manufacturers.
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I am not trying to make anyone to believe how much work AJ put into to make these suspension work on the FRS but their lap times for the AJ BRZ stock with bolt ons doing 1:57 at Ridge Motorsport Park WA and 1:17 at Mission Raceways BC is big prove !

Dimman 09-06-2013 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajrcow (Post 1194378)
I am also running the T1R coil-overs (F.6k R.6k) with the same wheel setup but the only difference is, I am running Advan AD08 255/35/18 and less aggressive alignment. My ride is comfy and after dialing it up, it reduces a fair amount of body roll, I love them !

I got mine installed at AJR. They did an excellent job doing all the settings like corner balance, ride height adjusted and aligned. They also have me to adjusted the car to suit my driving :thumbup: I came from FF so at this stage, I prefer more understeer before I can control side ways :bellyroll:

The suspension held up very well at the track and when my instructor was driving my car, he is very impressed with the setup. Just a little more info for my instructor, he races Spec Miatas.




I am not trying to make anyone to believe how much work AJ put into to make these suspension work on the FRS but their lap times for the AJ BRZ stock with bolt ons doing 1:57 at Ridge Motorsport Park WA and 1:17 at Mission Raceways BC is big prove !

Might want to let Mr Leung know that having employees post as 'happy customers' here is a forum rules violation.

ajrcow 09-07-2013 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 1194702)
Might want to let Mr Leung know that having employees post as 'happy customers' here is a forum rules violation.

You didn't know I left AJ back in 2006 ? How am I violating the forum rules ?

I just sharing my honest opinion and I don't mind anyone here from Vancouver area to have a ride in my car. If you are interested we can come out for coffee and go for a drive !

Cheers !

Dimman 09-07-2013 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajrcow (Post 1196520)
You didn't know I left AJ back in 2006 ? How am I violating the forum rules ?

I just sharing my honest opinion and I don't mind anyone here from Vancouver area to have a ride in my car. If you are interested we can come out for coffee and go for a drive !

Cheers !

You were promoting them on Revscene as late as 2009. Roughly when that 'other stuff' happened and you guys lost a fuck-ton of credibility in the Honda community. It's non-stop bs with you guys..m

Calum 09-07-2013 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jau (Post 1182163)
-3 up front wasnt the purpose to avoid rubbing issues, it was personal preference for track set up :).

it handles great on a street, it doesnt have much under or over steer like i was on the track, turn in is still very sharp even with alot wider tires. But the car does hydroplane quite often in the rain coz of the r compound tires and the -3 camber

R comps on the street, right.

Sent from my GT-S7560M using Tapatalk 4

ajrcow 09-07-2013 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 1196559)
You were promoting them on Revscene as late as 2009. Roughly when that 'other stuff' happened and you guys lost a fuck-ton of credibility in the Honda community. It's non-stop bs with you guys..m

Cheer up ! I was never on Revscene ! Are you sure that was me ? Regardless, if I am a AJ customer then should I be discriminated ?

FYI,

Quote:

1) Respect. By far the most important rule here. Basic rules of real life apply here - show each other respect and you will get respect as well. Don't bash someone else here because you feel like it. Disrespectful, derogatory or insulting attitudes or remarks will not be tolerated. This applies to all corners of the site - including posts, profile visitor messages, and thread tags.
Cheers

Dimman 09-07-2013 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajrcow (Post 1196796)
Cheer up ! I was never on Revscene ! Are you sure that was me ? Regardless, if I am a AJ customer then should I be discriminated ?

FYI,



Cheers

Because you have an admitted business connections with a vendor. Or a really popular screen name that just happened to be an official rep on other forums but only coincidentally repping the same things here with the same name... :rolleyes:

And vendors have to pay.

This thread starts with a copy-paste of an ad for the product. Then here you 'another satisfied customer'. Who, only when pressed, admit to working for the product's importer and give a timeframe inconsistent with the rest of the forums out there.

Blatantly commercial posts belong in the commercial section.

And threads of vendors trying to sneak around paying tend to get locked.

All of them.

Go get yourself a pretty blue username and promote your stuff in the Commercial section.

solidONE 09-08-2013 12:49 AM

Marketing!
http://www.gainesville-florida-realt...s/IMG_1982.PNG

ajrcow 09-08-2013 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 1196824)
Because you have an admitted business connections with a vendor. Or a really popular screen name that just happened to be an official rep on other forums but only coincidentally repping the same things here with the same name... :rolleyes:

And vendors have to pay.

This thread starts with a copy-paste of an ad for the product. Then here you 'another satisfied customer'. Who, only when pressed, admit to working for the product's importer and give a timeframe inconsistent with the rest of the forums out there.

Blatantly commercial posts belong in the commercial section.

And threads of vendors trying to sneak around paying tend to get locked.

All of them.

Go get yourself a pretty blue username and promote your stuff in the Commercial section.

If you think the pictures are being copied and pasted of ad for the product then you should report it. It will make yourself look bad if those pics actually from by jau's FRS !

I don't work for any of the vendor here. Most of the members who posted a product review mentioned the "BRAND" or where they got it from. As long as they are supporting the vendor, I don't see an issue.

I bet you have not even see the product or driven an FRS or BRZ with the product so how do you judge if they are good or bad, legit or not ? You said they are sh8t because of your bias ?

My name has ajrcow on it and does the forum rules said that if I have a similar name then I couldn't make any reviews ?

I have submitted a report about this thread to the administrator so let's wait and see what he says.

Dimman 09-08-2013 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajrcow (Post 1197043)
If you think the pictures are being copied and pasted of ad for the product then you should report it. It will make yourself look bad if those pics actually from by jau's FRS !

I don't work for any of the vendor here. Most of the members who posted a product review mentioned the "BRAND" or where they got it from. As long as they are supporting the vendor, I don't see an issue.

I bet you have not even see the product or driven an FRS or BRZ with the product so how do you judge if they are good or bad, legit or not ? You said they are sh8t because of your bias ?

My name has ajrcow on it and does the forum rules said that if I have a similar name then I couldn't make any reviews ?

I have submitted a report about this thread to the administrator so let's wait and see what he says.

Yes. It would be good to avoid another Vivid situation.

jau 09-08-2013 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 1196824)
Because you have an admitted business connections with a vendor. Or a really popular screen name that just happened to be an official rep on other forums but only coincidentally repping the same things here with the same name... :rolleyes:

And vendors have to pay.

This thread starts with a copy-paste of an ad for the product. Then here you 'another satisfied customer'. Who, only when pressed, admit to working for the product's importer and give a timeframe inconsistent with the rest of the forums out there.

Blatantly commercial posts belong in the commercial section.

And threads of vendors trying to sneak around paying tend to get locked.

All of them.

Go get yourself a pretty blue username and promote your stuff in the Commercial section.

I have said it in my previous post, this is a REVIEW, not an ad... Stop making assumptions when you do not even know me... it sounds really silly to me.

Also you are being off topic, this is a REVIEW thread. Stop making bias assumptions if you have nothing to share or ask about my current setup.

Dimman 09-08-2013 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jau (Post 1060460)
Hi guys and girls, I have installed T1R B52 Coilover with Cusco control arm two days ago. (Big thanks to Ben and Jacky in A&J Racing) Today I am writing a review of this coilover. :thumbup:

Description
T1R offers 44mm piston MONOTUBE tube design for maximum dampening ranges for street and track. T1R also offers camber, 30 way rebound adjustable, ride height/stroke and spring preload adjustable for wide range suspension setting and tuning. Made out of CNC machined chromoly steel (with rust-proof coating) built for heat dissiapation and to reduce unsprung weight. Comes with front pillowball uppermount , adjust wrenches and necessicity hardware for installation. SAE9254 Cold forming springs are equipped with the damper kit.

It's the description that reads like an ad.

The complaint is primarily directed at ajrcow, who represents(ed) AJR. His support 'review' is hardly coincidence. They tried to operate with out paying sponsorship when they first joined and are trying again. They have a history in other car communities of shady business and operations. Along the lines of Vivid/Agency Power. This is more of the same.

But as he previously noted, Admin has a report now and they can deal with it.


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