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clintavo 07-14-2013 03:32 AM

[/QUOTE] A header is the best bang-buck mod, IMO. That's why I chose to replace my exhaust from front to rear.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. I'm just getting the headers. The downstream stuff presents diminishing returns based on the reading I've done here. Did the same on my old B16 and SR20DE cars.

clintavo 07-14-2013 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy (Post 1067837)
What's the $6000 for? A 300whp turbo setup? ~200whp should only cost ~$3000 or ~$100 per whp. I know that stock whp figures vary from 140 to 170 but since all the ~200whp dyno sheets were on Dynojets, we should also use the Dynojet base of ~170whp. IIRC one of the 200whp Dynojet cars only made 173whp on a Mustang, which probably reads about 140whp stock. Good luck with your build. :)



Good point! Elevation and available fuel are huge!

A header is the best bang-buck mod, IMO. That's why I chose to replace my exhaust from front to rear.

Agreed. I'm just getting the headers. The downstream stuff presents diminishing returns based on the reading I've done here. Did the same on my old B16 and SR20DE cars.

Manilla 07-14-2013 11:10 AM

I was thinking of also getting headers and a tune after talking to one of the guys from DA Motorsports yesterday at SPOCom. I'm just wondering how loud it'll be. I used to have a full exhaust setup on my old Tiburon and got pulled over a couple times before deciding not to deal with the trouble. Any one know if it's within legal sound limits?

Manilla 07-14-2013 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by clintavo (Post 1060423)
The UEL headers are pretty hard to spot unless you're looking. Just have to make sure there is no CEL.
I live in California and bought the car out of state. That means I have to smog it now, and every 2 years henceforth. The real question is whether or not the remaining CAT is sufficient to pass the sniffer.

That would be awesome if it does pass the sniffer.

FRSBRZGT86FAN 07-14-2013 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy (Post 1067837)
What's the $6000 for? A 300whp turbo setup? ~200whp should only cost ~$3000 or ~$100 per whp. I know that stock whp figures vary from 140 to 170 but since all the ~200whp dyno sheets were on Dynojets, we should also use the Dynojet base of ~170whp. IIRC one of the 200whp Dynojet cars only made 173whp on a Mustang, which probably reads about 140whp stock. Good luck with your build. :)



Good point! Elevation and available fuel are huge!

A header is the best bang-buck mod, IMO. That's why I chose to replace my exhaust from front to rear.

Suspension setup as well and anything else drivetrain

Fast_Freddy 07-15-2013 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by clintavo (Post 1067901)
Agreed. I'm just getting the headers. The downstream stuff presents diminishing returns based on the reading I've done here. Did the same on my old B16 and SR20DE cars.

Agreed. The further back in the system, the less benefit there is from increasing exhaust system capacity. The smaller oem pipe can actually help maintain gas velocity as EGT is reduced, especially after passing through the cats. This being what people really mean when they say incorrect stuff about needing "backpressure".

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Originally Posted by Manilla (Post 1068139)
I was thinking of also getting headers and a tune after talking to one of the guys from DA Motorsports yesterday at SPOCom. I'm just wondering how loud it'll be. I used to have a full exhaust setup on my old Tiburon and got pulled over a couple times before deciding not to deal with the trouble. Any one know if it's within legal sound limits?

A header with stock exhaust on the 86 sounds great, IMO. Not too loud at all.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37081



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Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN (Post 1068396)
Suspension setup as well and anything else drivetrain

I see. The only racing I plan on is some auto-x and 1/4 miles just for fun so I only want wheels, tires and more torque. :) Besides, I spent $6k on my last car and recovered maybe $1000 when I sold it. If I had been smarter I would have invested that $6k and had $10k instead.

Manilla 07-16-2013 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy (Post 1069556)

A header with stock exhaust on the 86 sounds great, IMO. Not too loud at all.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37081

Agreed, that does sound good. Not too loud either. Plus Jegs has em for $574 shipped... If i don't get off the computer soon I'm gonna spend $574.

snky_snky 07-17-2013 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Foobar (Post 1064195)
Doesn't California have a provision for cars that are newer than a certain threshold? Here in NY, you go for the state inspection every year, but the first two years do not involve an emissions test. Every year thereafter, it's an OBD2 test (basically plug in to the OBD2 make sure no CEL's or codes, sensors in ready state, good to go).

As a NY resident, this is excellent news. Just ordered a RevWorks UEL (no cat on their product), and assumed I may have to reinstall stock pieces once a year.

...Sorry OP, I have nothing to contribute to your initial question :D


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