ill try to get a pics

for now here is a pic from a different subaru application

just to give you an idea

http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/...AC24631AC0.jpg

afaik i have not seen any header that completely removes the dip.

Quite a few. FA20Club, JDL, and one other vendor I can't remember :)

P&L does a good job, too.

All are more than just headers though.

That was the one. Could not remember. And what do you mean more then headers? I know the FA20Club is modular and can be used with there turbo setup. But at the end of the day they are just headers? If am i wrong, please educate me. :)

iv seen those graphs and still have some dips

I mean their numbers are with more than just headers ( exhaust, tune, E85, what have you). I can't remember who's numbers have which mods, though. But all the fantastic looking ones seem to be E85.

Really looking for a 3rd party test. Maybe DSport mag will do something like they did with the exhaust a while back.

93 octane

Oh i know. IMO Headers are useless performance wise without a tune. Most who also have a header, will probably have at least a cat-back and maybe a full header back setup as well.

Was there any other modifications done to the car besides the headers and tune? i.e. exhaust, intake, etc.

I saw these headers in person. Those dyno numbers are from a drop-in filter, Hotpipes headers, a single custom front pipe/overpipe delete, a catback and ecutek tune.

incorrect info here. stock catback was used here according to manufacturer

Were all the mods listed here used with the stock header as well or after?

for graphs 1 and 2, all stock components

for graph 3, K&N DIF, hotpipes over/frontpipe combo, stock exhaust