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ZakD 07-08-2013 03:57 AM

Toyota Celica: Japan's Forgotten Fastback - Video
 
Hey everyone,

Just stumbled onto this really good video entitled: Toyota Celica: Japan's Forgotten Fastback.

Give it a view - know your history :)


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz0A3Nl2XuM"]Toyota Celica: Japan's Forgotten Fastback - YouTube[/ame]

5th 86 07-08-2013 07:04 AM

Loved the old school rwd ones not so much the newer ones...
And omfg i love carburated with itbs sounds so damned good

Sasquachulator 07-08-2013 09:09 AM

If they were to resurrect this car, where could they fit it?
The FRS takes the cheap RWD section.
A new Supra would most likely be slotted to take on the 370Z or whatever similar car in that pricerange.

There may be a market still for small FWD sport compacts (like the last several generations)

Or would they take it back to RWD and slot it between the FRS and new Supra? (so competing with the lower end of the muscle cars, and the Genesis coupe?)

Then they could keep the tC as the small inexpensive FWD sport compact.....

hmm.....
FRS = 25-30,000?
Celica = 30-40,000?
Supra = 40-50,000?

If they were to do something like that it only makes sense to keep the Celica and Supra branded as Toyotas. It becomes too expensive to be a 'scion' IMO.

cyde01 07-08-2013 04:31 PM

it would be hard to find a slot for a celica if they did revive it, the FRS now firmly occupies it's position. engineering wise it would be easy though, a lot easier than the FRS. no need to make it RWD, just get subaru to build a coupe version of the impreza and re-badge it celica gt-four.

ML 07-08-2013 04:47 PM

One of my dream projects right here.

OrangeJuleas 07-08-2013 04:51 PM

I just learned that the name Celica was derived from the Latin word coelica, which means "heavenly", "celestial", or "magnificent" (it's even in the feminine form, which would mean you would have to give it a feminine name...:D).

Also, here is a 1973 (correct me if I'm wrong) Celica Liftback GT.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-OElSa8kwwp...ack+2000GT.jpg

As I've said before, I'll say it again:

:drool:

mav1178 07-08-2013 04:55 PM

Just playing the asshole here... but how is this related to the FRS?

The more OT posts show up on irrelevant forum sections, the more irrelevant the forum section is (and we might as well move the entire place to one single large forum).

(Even looking at the tags for this thread tells you everything you need to know... "Celica" and "Toyota")

-alex

Chef 07-08-2013 09:55 PM

:burnrubber: That car is a fine piece of work... Words cant express how the owner feels probably.

Thanks for sharing.

AE86guy 07-08-2013 10:03 PM

OG old school street racer. The roots!

Celica00 07-08-2013 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 1053005)
Just playing the asshole here... but how is this related to the FRS?

The more OT posts show up on irrelevant forum sections, the more irrelevant the forum section is (and we might as well move the entire place to one single large forum).

(Even looking at the tags for this thread tells you everything you need to know... "Celica" and "Toyota")

-alex

I don't see a problem. stop being so anal

anyways, I've always loved the Celica. That was the car I owned before the FRS. Toyota can definitely find a way to fit a new one among it's ranks in addition to the FRS

mav1178 07-08-2013 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celica00 (Post 1053827)
I don't see a problem. stop being so anal

If you don't see a problem, then that is a problem itself, or the way the site is moderated and segmented.

That, or moderators simply don't care and pick/choose the posts they wish to moderate, and that is speaks more for how the forum is run (or not being run)...

I enjoy these videos as much as the next person, but posts like these reduce the value of the forum in the long run.

But if it's not a problem, then I'll just go with the masses and ignore the actual description of the forum: "All photos, videos and other media related to the Scion FR-S and Toyota 86"

-alex

Lo 07-09-2013 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 1053895)
If you don't see a problem, then that is a problem itself, or the way the site is moderated and segmented.

That, or moderators simply don't care and pick/choose the posts they wish to moderate, and that is speaks more for how the forum is run (or not being run)...

I enjoy these videos as much as the next person, but posts like these reduce the value of the forum in the long run.

But if it's not a problem, then I'll just go with the masses and ignore the actual description of the forum: "All photos, videos and other media related to the Scion FR-S and Toyota 86"

-alex

+1

There are specific sub sections for a reason: to avoid chaos due to overly reddundant threads and to help seperate the information accordingly. This forum is already suffering from multiple reposts. It's not complicated to have put this thread into the "off topic lounge" or even into the "FR-S / BRZ vs ..." area if you phrase it into "where would you put the Celica if they brought it back" but even that is kinda pushing it.

Don't get me wrong; I effin' love the Celicas!

mav1178 07-09-2013 12:52 AM

I hope everyone sees where I am coming from... the QUALITY of the posts on a forum are just as important as the QUANTITY.

What's the point of an awesome forum for people owning the 86/FRS/BRZ when the posts are not up to the reputation of the forum? What's stopping someone from going to other forums, diluting the individual value of each forum and making the community worse in the long run?

There's at least 3 or 4 other forums that people can easily be on, so why should they stop here when they can get more precise and clear info elsewhere?

I moderated several forums and mailing lists for the 240SX crowd from ~1998 till 2004, and the biggest value for the enthusiast was always the people that made the forum/mailing list better. Once the quality people leave (because of life, different hobby, or just simply losing interest), the venue becomes shit.

Just my word of caution before these OT posts get out of hand. Trust me, I saw 3 forums go down the tubes because no one cared.

-alex

ZakD 07-09-2013 01:58 AM

Ok. Point taken guys. My bad.

When posting the video, it obviously occurred that it WAS a bit off topic. Hence the Celica tag etc. The first time I saw the video, I could see the lines, heritage and inspiration of the 86/FRS stemming from this car as well, hence the post.

Strictly speaking, yes off topic. Does it add value seeing it to an 86/BRZ/FRS enthusiast? I think it does. But that's just my opinion.

Will be more careful next time :thumbup:

Zak

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mav1178 07-09-2013 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZakD (Post 1054315)
Ok. Point taken guys. My bad.

When posting the video, it obviously occurred that it WAS a bit off topic. Hence the Celica tag etc. The first time I saw the video, I could see the lines, heritage and inspiration of the 86/FRS stemming from this car as well, hence the post.

Strictly speaking, yes off topic. Does it add value seeing it to an 86/BRZ/FRS enthusiast? I think it does. But that's just my opinion.

Will be more careful next time :thumbup:

That's not my point... your video had nothing to do with the main purpose of this particular sub-forum.

Even the chief engineer of the car admitted the styling of the car was borrowed from the 2000GT coupe, and not from the first-gen Celica.

If you can see the heritage in the Celica, then I can see the heritage of the FT-86 concept car from a resurgence of drifting brought about by the 180SX. Both are difficult to prove, and your position is as hard to believe as mine is.

Anyhow, in a perfect world you would 1) post this thread, and I would 2) voice a complaint about it, and 3) the mods would move it.

I have yet to see any moderator fix these badly placed threads with any zeal. It's almost like they don't care for these off-topic threads in the wrong section.

-alex

R3d 07-11-2013 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZakD (Post 1051812)
Hey everyone,

Just stumbled onto this really good video entitled: Toyota Celica: Japan's Forgotten Fastback.

Give it a view - know your history :)


Toyota Celica: Japan's Forgotten Fastback - YouTube

this was great, thanks for sharing that awesome vid XD :thumbsup:

UltraFRS 07-11-2013 03:50 PM

Cool vid...I love mine, just wish I had those bumpers and that I could drive mine. Im rebuilding the top end and doing the front end now.

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps0aac5e37.jpg
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps65111b0e.jpg

ZakD 07-11-2013 04:04 PM

Wow. Awesome. Lots of work ahead there :D

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UltraFRS 07-11-2013 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZakD (Post 1061880)
Wow. Awesome. Lots of work ahead there :D

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It would've been done already, but I broke my hand last week so it's at a stand still for a bit.


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