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Benn0r 07-07-2013 12:49 PM

need an oil catch can for vortech\innovate superchargers?
 
Hi guys,

I am a new innovate supercharger owner, will be getting it installed \ dyno'd in the next few days. Can any of you let me know whether or not you have needed to install an oil catch can system on your innovate\vortech supercharger systems?

Cheers!

Dezoris 07-07-2013 02:49 PM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...3&postcount=75

Read that and decide.

My opinion is yes, mostly for efficiency sake. For the Vortech its a must and the breather line runs right into the supercharger path and then down to the intercooler.

Draco-REX 07-07-2013 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benn0r (Post 1050421)
Hi guys,

I am a new innovate supercharger owner, will be getting it installed \ dyno'd in the next few days. Can any of you let me know whether or not you have needed to install an oil catch can system on your innovate\vortech supercharger systems?

Cheers!

Do you NEED one? No. The car will run just fine without.

SHOULD you get one? Yes. By reducing or eliminating the oil that enters the intake, you'll get less knock and can run better timing.

The thing is, horizontally-opposed (boxer) engines tend to have pretty dirty PCV systems; especially if you do AutoX or track-days. The oil won't leave the heads as readily under higher G turns which means it can get splashed into the PCV system. That oil will end up back in your intake and get burned off. And it doesn't take much engine knowledge to figure out what happens when an engine set up to burn clean fuel/air mixtures gets dirty oil sprayed into it.

With forced induction the issue can become worse as not only are you seeing higher speeds and potentially higher cornering forces, but you're also going to get higher crankcrase pressures which mean more volume through the PCV system.

TL;DR: An AOS isn't necessary, but it's a REALLY good idea.

whitefrs 07-07-2013 02:56 PM

get one
btw im selling my crawford one

Pete 07-07-2013 04:12 PM

I got one for my car and it catches about an ounce of oil/fuel a week. I would say yes you should get one.

pheoxs 07-07-2013 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezoris (Post 1050593)
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...3&postcount=75

Read that and decide.

My opinion is yes, mostly for efficiency sake. For the Vortech its a must and the breather line runs right into the supercharger path and then down to the intercooler.

What catch can would you recommend?

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roddy 07-07-2013 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco-REX (Post 1050594)
Do you NEED one? No. The car will run just fine without.

SHOULD you get one? Yes. By reducing or eliminating the oil that enters the intake, you'll get less knock and can run better timing.

The thing is, horizontally-opposed (boxer) engines tend to have pretty dirty PCV systems; especially if you do AutoX or track-days. The oil won't leave the heads as readily under higher G turns which means it can get splashed into the PCV system. That oil will end up back in your intake and get burned off. And it doesn't take much engine knowledge to figure out what happens when an engine set up to burn clean fuel/air mixtures gets dirty oil sprayed into it.

With forced induction the issue can become worse as not only are you seeing higher speeds and potentially higher cornering forces, but you're also going to get higher crankcrase pressures which mean more volume through the PCV system.

TL;DR: An AOS isn't necessary, but it's a REALLY good idea.

Well said.

Perihelion 01-17-2014 02:17 AM

@Benn0r did you end buying a catch can? I'm wondering if the Innovate SC clears the Crawford AOS.

whataboutbob 01-17-2014 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perihelion (Post 1457590)
@Benn0r did you end buying a catch can? I'm wondering if the Innovate SC clears the Crawford AOS.

I had one and no it doesn't. Radium Engineering is going to be selling a twin-specific one in the next couple of weeks.


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