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WRB Bandit 03-07-2012 05:57 PM

Brz Production Numbers
 
I got an interesting email today from my sales guy that stated Subaru would only be allocating 540 BRZ's to the United States this year. I was initially pretty surprised but he is a Subaru enthusiast like most of us, and I've known him for a while. The info he gets on most Subaru products is dead on. If this turns out to be true, the market for these is going to be crazy.

Tbxgz 03-07-2012 06:01 PM

Welcome to the forum. There has been an influx of these threads popping up, so in order to keep the forum clean, search first. Also your only about 4 weeks late with this news. :thumbsup:

tranzformer 03-07-2012 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WRB Bandit (Post 151383)
I got an interesting email today from my sales guy that stated Subaru would only be allocating 540 BRZ's to the United States this year. I was initially pretty surprised but he is a Subaru enthusiast like most of us, and I've known him for a while. The info he gets on most Subaru products is dead on. If this turns out to be true, the market for these is going to be crazy.

Hello and welcome.

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Have a good evening, we look forward to providing you with answers moving forward.

ayau 03-07-2012 06:33 PM

there are about 600 subaru dealers across america, which means less than 1 brz per dealer.

http://www.subaru.com/company/index.html

i haven't heard a single person here say that their dealer wasn't getting a single brz. not sure how accurate that 540 number is.

Tbxgz 03-07-2012 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayau (Post 151416)
there are about 600 subaru dealers across america, which means less than 1 brz per dealer.

http://www.subaru.com/company/index.html

i haven't heard a single person here say that their dealer wasn't getting a single brz. not sure how accurate that 540 number is.

Keep in mind, it's broken up into a 7 month allocation. So some dealers are only being allocated 2 over 7 which equates to far less then 1 brz per month.

Xlr8 03-07-2012 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WRB Bandit (Post 151383)
I got an interesting email today from my sales guy that stated Subaru would only be allocating 540 BRZ's to the United States this year. I was initially pretty surprised but he is a Subaru enthusiast like most of us, and I've known him for a while. The info he gets on most Subaru products is dead on. If this turns out to be true, the market for these is going to be crazy.

Welcome to the forum Bandit. Don't worry about these whine bags and there excessive threat B.S. They are just all testy because they don't know prices or numbers of cars that are coming to the U.S. market. As soon as they know price they will be all better. :bellyroll:
The info you are getting is partially correct. It is not 540 cars total, it is 540 cars a month for the first 7 months. Then who the heck knows what kind of numbers after that.
From what has been beat to death on here and what we have been told Toyota will get most of the cars produced. Not to sell as dime a dozen Scions but for Japanese Domestic Market (JDM) and European market.
After the first initial wave of release cars there should be enough to go around. 540 cars a month for a whole years is 6,480 cars a year. That's a decent number. Unless this car just proves crazy popular that should be able to fill orders.

Spaceywilly 03-07-2012 06:39 PM

It's 540 per month

Longhorn248 03-07-2012 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Spaceywilly (Post 151423)
It's 540 per month

/thread

dsgerbc 03-07-2012 06:40 PM

Great, now dealerships started to troll the forums and plant their junk directly.

Torquesteered 03-07-2012 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayau (Post 151416)
there are about 600 subaru dealers across america, which means less than 1 brz per dealer.

http://www.subaru.com/company/index.html

i haven't heard a single person here say that their dealer wasn't getting a single brz. not sure how accurate that 540 number is.


It's not accurate at all, in fact If I had to guess, this is all a bunch of marketing :bs:...

They will make as many BRZ's as they can sell and then they will make some more. This is a subaru, not an exotic. The only reason they decided to make this car in the first place is because they feel they can sell enough of them to make a profit. Otherwise it wouldn't exist. At some point there will be a surplus, count on it.

WRB Bandit 03-07-2012 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xlr8 (Post 151421)
Welcome to the forum Bandit. Don't worry about these whine bags and there excessive threat B.S. They are just all testy because they don't know prices or numbers of cars that are coming to the U.S. market. As soon as they know price they will be all better. :bellyroll:
The info you are getting is partially correct. It is not 540 cars total, it is 540 cars a month for the first 7 months. Then who the heck knows what kind of numbers after that.
From what has been beat to death on here and what we have been told Toyota will get most of the cars produced. Not to sell as dime a dozen Scions but for Japanese Domestic Market (JDM) and European market.
After the first initial wave of release cars there should be enough to go around. 540 cars a month for a whole years is 6,480 cars a year. That's a decent number. Unless this car just proves crazy popular that should be able to fill orders.

This is what he told me, he works for the 3rd highest selling dealership in the country,
"Let me know if there is anything I can do to help, we found out today that we're getting 49 of the 540 allocated to the states.* Thanks!"

Want.FR-S 03-07-2012 06:43 PM

So the newbie's question was still not answered.

That 540 units/per year number is not correct. According to the old news on this forum, that number is probably 540 units/per month for US only, and IMHO I even question that number. Given the 7 month run for this year, many dealerships will just get 7 to 8 units *this year*, but some dealerships are claiming to have 17 units allocated (for this year? or initial run?).

I am suspecting that this sales guy is trying to pitch the idea of exclusivity of BRZ. That is my personal view, though.

Tbxgz 03-07-2012 06:48 PM

Like I said, I talked to a few dealerships who are only getting 2-3 over 7 months. IMO this 540 per month info is legit. 540 over 7 is 3780 cars for the year. Thats right in line with the original estimates (from months ago) saying 3000-4000.

Xlr8 03-07-2012 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WRB Bandit (Post 151430)
This is what he told me, he works for the 3rd highest selling dealership in the country,
"Let me know if there is anything I can do to help, we found out today that we're getting 49 of the 540 allocated to the states.* Thanks!"

Well you need to get back with him and tell him to get his crap straight. Seriously!! think about it. Around 600 dealers in the whole U.S. and only 540 units a year and he's gonna get 49?!! Whatever!!! I have some Ocean front Property in Arizona if you're interested.

gdi2290 03-07-2012 06:54 PM

why cant someone make another map for each dealership and how much they were allocated

Xlr8 03-07-2012 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gdi2290 (Post 151438)
why cant someone make another map for each dealership and how much they were allocated

Let us know when you're done with that.
:happy0180:

gdi2290 03-07-2012 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xlr8 (Post 151439)
Let us know when you're done with that.
:happy0180:

fine I'll start working on that right now for a couple of hours :bonk:

tranzformer 03-07-2012 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tbxgz (Post 151435)
Like I said, I talked to a few dealerships who are only getting 2-3 over 7 months. IMO this 540 per month info is legit. 540 over 7 is 3780 cars for the year. Thats right in line with the original estimates (from months ago) saying 3000-4000.

Yup. / thread.

86'd 03-07-2012 07:17 PM

Nah, I still say that it's 540 a year and we all have to have a "Hunger Games" to see who will get one.

Oriental Life 03-07-2012 07:39 PM

5000, 3500, 3000, 1000, 540.... With this trend when I'll be buying one, they will tell me "You got the only one, allocated for US for this year!"

What a crap!

hanabie 03-07-2012 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tbxgz (Post 151435)
Like I said, I talked to a few dealerships who are only getting 2-3 over 7 months. IMO this 540 per month info is legit. 540 over 7 is 3780 cars for the year. Thats right in line with the original estimates (from months ago) saying 3000-4000.


also the website mentioned that the car would be built in extremely limited quantity. It makes sense after all.

Oriental Life 03-07-2012 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hanabie (Post 151477)
also the website mentioned that the car would be built in extremely limited quantity. It makes sense after all.

WHY? With Scion at 25K+ people will turn to Subaru. Scion may cancel FR-S if initial sales numbers are too bad (remember, at start they said 10K Scions, 5K Subie).

Its justa game to force markups. BS!

Dave-ROR 03-07-2012 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WRB Bandit (Post 151430)
This is what he told me, he works for the 3rd highest selling dealership in the country,
"Let me know if there is anything I can do to help, we found out today that we're getting 49 of the 540 allocated to the states.* Thanks!"

At least he's not lying about being a high selling dealership as 49 cars isn't bad.

However, it's 540 a month as stated here, not 540 for the year. He is wrong about that part.

Dave-ROR 03-07-2012 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oriental Life (Post 151475)
5000, 3500, 3000, 1000, 540.... With this trend when I'll be buying one, they will tell me "You got the only one, allocated for US for this year!"

What a crap!

One of my cars is one of 320 for it's year, so 540 isn't THAT limited anyways IMO :P

kash 03-07-2012 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xlr8 (Post 151437)
I have some Ocean front Property in Arizona if you're interested.

:clap:

gt86mods 03-07-2012 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xlr8 (Post 151421)
Welcome to the forum Bandit. Don't worry about these whine bags and there excessive threat B.S.

I almost died of laughter when I read this, well said my man, well said! :bow:

Oriental Life 03-07-2012 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 151496)
One of my cars is one of 320 for it's year, so 540 isn't THAT limited anyways IMO :P

Only two dealers with whom I work have almost 100 cars allocated. SoCal will easily have 150-200. Thats just California. Do the math. 540 cars? Really? :)

Dave-ROR 03-07-2012 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oriental Life (Post 151563)
Only two dealers with whom I work have almost 100 cars allocated. SoCal will easily have 150-200. Thats just California. Do the math. 540 cars? Really? :)

I never said 540 for the year. I've said 540 per month before it was really public knowledge here... was just making a joke that even if it was only 540 for the year I still don't consider that all that limited :P

Oriental Life 03-07-2012 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 151572)
I never said 540 for the year. I've said 540 per month before it was really public knowledge here... was just making a joke that even if it was only 540 for the year I still don't consider that all that limited :P


My bad, I missed your first post.

Xlr8 03-07-2012 10:53 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xlr8
Welcome to the forum Bandit. Don't worry about these whine bags and there excessive threat B.S.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gt86mods (Post 151546)
I almost died of laughter when I read this, well said my man, well said! :bow:

Seriously!! They remind me of the guys up north on the motorcycle forums come March first part of April when they haven't been able to ride all winter. They get all pissy and testy until first one or two day of nice riding weather and they get the poison out of their system.
Once they get their cars there will be threads galore on topics like, "AC/DC or Metalica while driving." or "32 lbs or 33 lbs of air pressure?" or "Nitrogen or Regular Air in Tires."
But nobody will give a rats *$$ because they'll go jump in their cars and drive. :burnrubber::thumbup:
Then this forum will be a much more awesome place to hang out.


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