Non traditional intercooler layouts?
 

anyone trying anything other than a fmic setup?

havent seen any water cooled or v mount style setups yet.
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...09953275_n.jpg

I feel like a front mount is the most logical position for a intercooler given the coldest air is on the bottom - for front mounted engines anyway.

Someone do a top mount and a subie style hood!

thats all well and good if you car doesnt have heat issues like ours. the air from the fmic in now hot air flowing over a radiator and possibly and oil cooler. not to mention shortening some of the rediculously long intercooler pipe runs that on our kits.

No space under there for a top mount or any other style.

Long piping? Looks about the same length as most front mounts

Nameless hinted at a v mount, but certainly hasn't said anything concrete.

I think, at some point, the temperature of the air going over the intercooler isn't AS important as the fact that SOME air is going over the intercooler. Top mounts have a tendancy to heat soak faster, being mounted on top of an already hot engine. I've seen some interesting split intercoolers on Audis, but our car isn't engineered in such a way to make that possible. A V-mount would be cool, but how would it actually mount without a custom front engine cage (ditching the factory bumper beam and front assembly almost completely ala Greddy D1 FRS).

I'd think with an A/W setup, you have a little more freedom in where to mount said heat exchanger, but mostly because the lines running to it are so much smaller. You could do a rear mount setup (in the haunches over the rear wheels) but then you'd have to engineer scoops to get air to it. Unfortunately, front mount seems to be the easiest, most cost effective way to get the job done. Isn't that why most cars have the radiator mounted low and up front, to collect as much air as possible?

I think a V-Mount would be awesome on a BRZ. It would be a lot of work but I believe just about anything can be done. I built a V Mount in my GR STI.

The rad support unbolts so that is a no cut affair. Hood is easy to make an opening in to extract heat and I believe battle version or someone has a tube beam...
It obviously wouldn't be an over the counter solution, but there should be someone willing to try.

here ya go.

What turbo kit is that? I think a V mount setup would be really easy on this car. It would come with a new top support since it can be unbolted.

Looks like a greddy kit with a personal touch.


Looks to be next to the greddy tc2 as well.

Someone do water/air damnit.

i was thinking the avo kit with a v-mount similiar the smax car i posted up top would be easy.
almost no plumbing involved so the spool time would be instant.

has anyone else looked into this? I saw Yoshi and his tomei ej26 were running a vmount for pikes peak, but i have not seen many others looking into this.

First picture shows a V-Mount intercooler. Used in a lot of setup with 13b in RX-7 TT

V mounts are in the most part wank factor.

Sure you have shorter piping. But LOL at anyone that thinks the picture posted in the OP is going to get any significant airflow, its basically paralell to the main direction of air flow, where as you want it to be as close to perpindicular as possible

A proper v-mount tilts the radiator back. The gap it leaves as tilts back, the IC goes in.

The further the radiator can tilt back, the better the angle of the face of the IC to the airflow.

The point of a v mount is, response from shorter pipiing, and is often done because the car is overheating. So, also it gives the radiator better airflow, as its not getting the 'ehaust' air from the intercooler that used to be mounted infront of it.

A properly done v-mount can be excellent. They are almost never properly done though.

When I made the setup on my GR STI the bumper air duct fed the radiator and the grill fed the intercooler. This allowed a 90 degree angle between the two cores.

With a BRZ/FRS a V-Mount would be compromised because of the design of the front of the car. I think a traditional front mount works just fine in this chassis

Already done. I've been testing water to air intercoolers for months.

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk

My local company is going to make a water/air intercooler next spring. I will be running non-intercooled during cold winter months (PNW) with low boost. IAT never went above 101F after +30 dyno pulls, no fan/with fan etc. I will create a build post once I get mine installed this month!

how about no intercooler?

There's two in-line intercoolers on that intake path in the second picture. One is pre-charger, second is post charger. technically a heat exchanger, not really an intercooler.

our cars struggle with heat once boosted, atleast the actual track cars.
the s-max car has proper ducting built into the bumper and front end. not ideal layout for what i was thinking though.
i you were to build a similiar setup on our car by removing the section of the core support that unbolts and "open up the hood" i think we could see major gains in cooling efficiency on the radiator side.

very good point about opening the hood, getting cold air in is important but so is getting the hot air out. Also is you play the aero right it could pull the hot air out.

Is the heat issue a result of the front mount intercoolers or front mounted turbos or both?

i am not sure... i am not boosted yet due to the fact that no one kit really appeals to me due to the inherent issues with all the setups.

i know the element tuning guys were struggling with oil temps. the exhaust manifolds and turbos being where they are dont help things. i think we would see a significant drop if we just got rid of the ac setup.

Or position the turbo where Subaru has for the last 15 years. They seem to know a few things about the subject.

what about doing a FMIC and a TMIC? combine the routing, maybe both to cool the same air? just throwing thoughts out there

seems like a lot of tubing. Maybe a TMIC + Air to water.

might be a lot of tubing, but i think it could have some potential to help with excessive heat during track days. /shrug

that's not an intercooler, that's a full on baby catcher. lmao

yeah thats a great theory yet every race team that uses one moves stuff around....

A sneak peek at what I'm working on.

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk

Do you have the turbo setup as well?

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk

I've been rocking various prototypes for about 6 months.

Pretty much settled on a design. Will tidy it up and then release proper info.

Talk about short piping length...

Yeah, throttle response is "acceptable".

:burnrubber:

hey it also works for small animals...but damn i love that setup. i think he even has his oil cooler in that setup