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west2k95 03-07-2012 06:03 AM

Import cost of Toyota GT-86?
 
I am very curious of how much it would cost to import a toyota gt from japan? What are the fees and charges in doing so? If anyone has had experience buying and importing a car to American internationally, what were the cost for you?
I know there isn't an official pricing for the car, that is why i just want to know the shipping cost.

Thanks in advance!

Dark 03-07-2012 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by west2k95 (Post 150961)
I am very curious of how much it would cost to import a toyota gt from japan? What are the fees and charges in doing so? If anyone has had experience buying and importing a car to American internationally, what were the cost for you?
I know there isn't an official pricing for the car, that is why i just want to know the shipping cost.

Thanks in advance!

Why would you want to import it? You want taht HID and other features lack in FR-S?

FRSfan111 03-07-2012 06:31 AM

RHD its JDM yo!!

Levi 03-07-2012 08:23 AM

^ Your sig is so huge! :D

FRSDREAMER 03-07-2012 08:31 AM

Just debadge an FRS, and add Daytime running lights, fog lights, and a spoiler.

It would be too much of a hassle, trying to get this vehicle exported to the US.

zigzagz94 03-07-2012 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by FRSDREAMER (Post 150998)
Just debadge an FRS, and add Daytime running lights, fog lights, and a spoiler.

It would be too much of a hassle, trying to get this vehicle exported to the US.

Or if you just want the center console, hvac, push start...just buy a limited BRZ and swap fron't ends with an FR-S. I'm sure shortly after release there will be tons of threads like "guys just crashed my Scion" so it won't be too long of a wait to find a FR-S front clip.

Draco-REX 03-07-2012 12:44 PM

The fender badges are the same, just not the make/model badges. The car is the same mechanically. Maybe the bumper beams would be different, but that's about it.

I don't think Scion has released the options list yet. So the HIDs and fogs might be available.

The only thing that's truly different from a JDM FT would be RHD. But that's just silly.

SVTSHC 03-07-2012 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Draco-REX (Post 151109)
The fender badges are the same, just not the make/model badges. The car is the same mechanically. Maybe the bumper beams would be different, but that's about it.

I don't think Scion has released the options list yet. So the HIDs and fogs might be available.

The only thing that's truly different from a JDM FT would be RHD. But that's just silly.

But why wouldn't you want to make drive thru's, toll boothes and the sort a hassle?! It just sounds like so much fun :bellyroll:

NemesisPrime909 03-07-2012 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SVTSHC (Post 151144)
But why wouldn't you want to make drive thru's, toll boothes and the sort a hassle?! It just sounds like so much fun :bellyroll:


lol there are a few remedies for these situtations

Drive-Tru's

- drive through it backwards (not recommended)
-Park and order your food inside, avoiding the drive true all together (recommended)

Toll Booths
-get a pike pass

All that said...

if you don't care about RHD and still want a GT-86, buy a BRZ and swap the JDM headlights, badges, bumper, and steering wheel, and there you go

A LOT CHEAPER THAN IMPORTING

but thene there are those who want to be "authentic."

in which case it would be easier to get one from the UK.

Dimman 03-07-2012 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NemesisPrime909 (Post 151163)
lol there are a few remedies for these situtations

Drive-Tru's

- drive through it backwards (not recommended)
-Park and order your food inside, avoiding the drive true all together (recommended)

Toll Booths
-get a pike pass

All that said...

if you don't care about RHD and still want a GT-86, buy a BRZ and swap the JDM headlights, badges, bumper, and steering wheel, and there you go

A LOT CHEAPER THAN IMPORTING

but thene there are those who want to be "authentic."

in which case it would be easier to get one from the UK.

There is also the passing slow cars on a 2 lane highway issue, and turning left at intersections. Plus my pet peeve, hitting the wipers when changing lanes because you forget the wiper and turn signal stalks are reversed...

RHD, annoying. Stupid if you have an equivalent LHD option. Which we will.

Turbowned 03-07-2012 02:18 PM

Can anyone answer his actual question??

dsgerbc 03-07-2012 02:25 PM

^Why? It's a stupid question. It's gonna be several times cheaper to convert a USDM BRZ/FRS, using JDM bumper beams/covers, steering wheels and EDM HIDs. Otherwise you'd probably have to import ten and let NTHSA crash-test nine of those.

RRnold 03-07-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 151167)
Can anyone answer his actual question??

It wouldn't make sense to attempt to import one here and would be damn near impossible, especially since there is a US equivalent. The cost, paperwork and time to make sure it is approved by customs, NHTSA, DOT, DMV, EPA etc would be a huge headache.

I've seen some of the ol skool Japanese cars from 1970 and below imported to the US with less restrictions.

dsgerbc 03-07-2012 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RRnold (Post 151183)

I've seen some of the ol skool Japanese cars from 1970 and below imported to the US with less restrictions.

Yeah, anything over 24 years old is a lot easier to import. Anyway, had this on the subject in my bookmarks.

carbonBLUE 03-07-2012 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RRnold (Post 151183)
It wouldn't make sense to attempt to import one here and would be damn near impossible, especially since there is a US equivalent. The cost, paperwork and time to make sure it is approved by customs, NHTSA, DOT, DMV, EPA etc would be a huge headache.

I've seen some of the ol skool Japanese cars from 1970 and below imported to the US with less restrictions.

yeah and plus its a LOT easier if you are importing for racing reasons like i am... i will be JDM on the track but USDM on the street, just change the badges to toyota, none of us will ridicule you :D its all the same car both are toyotas, or just buy the top line brz its up to you

RRnold 03-07-2012 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dsgerbc (Post 151200)
Yeah, anything over 24 years old is a lot easier to import. Anyway, had this on the subject in my bookmarks.

+1

There's a guy here in SD with a '71 Skyline 2000GT and I was talking about to him about his car when I saw it near a Trader Joes. He told the process of importing the older JDM cars here.

http://www.modified.com/features/mod.../photo_03.html

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Originally Posted by carbonBLUE (Post 151218)
yeah and plus its a LOT easier if you are importing for racing reasons like i am... i will be JDM on the track but USDM on the street, just change the badges to toyota, none of us will ridicule you :D its all the same car both are toyotas, or just buy the top line brz its up to you

Really! Can you explain more on the process of importing for off road use. Texas seems to be very relaxed when it comes to cars unlike California; which is the only negative thing about being on the West Coast.

carbonBLUE 03-07-2012 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RRnold (Post 151236)
+1

There's a guy here in SD with a '71 Skyline 2000GT and I was talking about to him about his car when I saw it near a Trader Joes. He told the process of importing the older JDM cars here.

http://www.modified.com/features/mod.../photo_03.html



Really! Can you explain more on the process of importing for off road use. Texas seems to be very relaxed when it comes to cars unlike California; which is the only negative thing about being on the West Coast.


mainly because it wont be a road vehicle, doesnt have to pass emissions, safety, and other shit, my friend had a s14 imported from japan and said they pretty much just checked it for bombs in customs and had to sign off the it wasn't for legal road use, and that he was using off road only, had to pay import taxes, and a few other things :D

all i know is what he told me, he did it to save money and time cause it was going to be a show/drift only car

Longhorn248 03-07-2012 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RRnold (Post 151236)
+1

There's a guy here in SD with a '71 Skyline 2000GT and I was talking about to him about his car when I saw it near a Trader Joes. He told the process of importing the older JDM cars here.

http://www.modified.com/features/mod.../photo_03.html



Really! Can you explain more on the process of importing for off road use. Texas seems to be very relaxed when it comes to cars unlike California; which is the only negative thing about being on the West Coast.

I can think of a couple more negative things :D but I don't want to get off topic in this completely relevant and useful thread.

Chupacabra 03-07-2012 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Longhorn248 (Post 151248)
:D but I don't want to get off topic in this completely relevant and useful thread.

(chuckles from the back of the room)

FLHC 03-07-2012 03:45 PM

You don't want to do this.

Buy local.


There is too much red tape to go through. Has to pass emissions testing, safety testing (this includes you buying three versions of the car and having them crash test it, and then you can drive off with your forth) and all kinds of other shit.

But hey... let us know if you decide to do it, because after the first person does the crash testing of a JDM model for us, it becomes a lot easier!

carbonBLUE 03-07-2012 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FLHC (Post 151264)
You don't want to do this.

Buy local.


There is too much red tape to go through. Has to pass emissions testing, safety testing (this includes you buying three versions of the car and having them crash test it, and then you can drive off with your forth) and all kinds of other shit.

But hey... let us know if you decide to do it, because after the first person does the crash testing of a JDM model for us, it becomes a lot easier!

if i win the lotto, ill let yall know :D

tripjammer 03-07-2012 06:16 PM

I bet you will be able to buy the HIDs and dualzone AC with push start all for less than $1500 in parts from subaru or toyota....

The leather alcantra seats are just covers, not sure how much that will cost.

Max Schnell 03-07-2012 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tripjammer (Post 151401)
I bet you will be able to buy the HIDs and dualzone AC with push start all for less than $1500 in parts from subaru or toyota....

The leather alcantra seats are just covers, not sure how much that will cost.

HIDs from dealers are usually pretty expensive. Could be as much as $1500 a side for entire headlight housing and hid ballast, etc.

Turbowned 03-07-2012 07:21 PM

Nav system would be in Japanese, LOL.

tranzformer 03-07-2012 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tripjammer (Post 151401)
I bet you will be able to buy the HIDs and dualzone AC with push start all for less than $1500 in parts from subaru or toyota....

The leather alcantra seats are just covers, not sure how much that will cost.


Never underestimate the cost of OEM parts.

dsgerbc 03-07-2012 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Max Schnell (Post 151461)
HIDs from dealers are usually pretty expensive. Could be as much as $1500 a side for entire headlight housing and hid ballast, etc.

STI HIDs are $700 a pop.

Sasquachulator 03-07-2012 07:56 PM

Its a legit question, because CLEARLY (and i emphasize CLEARLY) the Scion FRS, Toyota GT/86 and the Subaru BRZ are COMPLETELY and DIFINITIVELY different cars.

Here are several other cars that are vastly different from each other:

Scion tC and Toyota Zelas. COMPLETELY different.
Pontiac GTO and Holden Monaro. COMPLETELY different.
Pontiac G8 and Holden commodore. COMPLETELY different.
Chevrolet Cavalier, Toyota Cavalier. COMPLETELY different.

They are completely different cars. And if i were to guess how much it would cost to import? Alot. Its a shame. because some of these cars are WAY WAY better than what we get in NA. I sure wish I had a Toyota Corolla Sportivo/Tsport instead of my Toyota Corolla XRS. (Look it up, they're COMPLETELY different cars.)

borge12 03-07-2012 08:08 PM

Erm, they really aren't that different. Different exterior and interior options, but everything else is the same.

adprokid 03-07-2012 09:47 PM

The european or jdm gt86 price is about $40K which is almost the price of 2 scion Fr-s.

Guff 03-07-2012 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by borge12 (Post 151493)
Erm, they really aren't that different. Different exterior and interior options, but everything else is the same.

He was being sarcastic...:slap:


Anyways... It'll cost an arm and a leg, and the ends most certainly won't justify the means.

subatoy 03-07-2012 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by west2k95 (Post 150961)
I am very curious of how much it would cost to import a toyota gt from japan? What are the fees and charges in doing so? If anyone has had experience buying and importing a car to American internationally, what were the cost for you?
I know there isn't an official pricing for the car, that is why i just want to know the shipping cost.

Thanks in advance!

WTF?!
thats retarded!
I really hope you have a lot of money to throw away.
just buy a BRZ and swap for FRS bumper.

RRnold 03-07-2012 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by subatoy (Post 151583)
WTF?!
thats retarded!
I really hope you have a lot of money to throw away.
just buy a BRZ and swap for FRS bumper.

No, actually this is retarded!

just86 03-07-2012 10:07 PM

mexico?

RRnold 03-07-2012 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by just86 (Post 151587)
mexico?

Still going to be $$$.

http://foreignborn.com/visas_imm/ent...ingyourcar.htm

Just make sure not to bring anything back... :lol:

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...t_1654737i.jpg
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...-_1654731i.jpg

tranzformer 03-07-2012 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RRnold (Post 151592)



Reminds me of this:

http://www.thehotglove.com/wp-conten...1/05/pic30.jpg

tachi1247 03-07-2012 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dsgerbc (Post 151470)
STI HIDs are $700 a pop.

those would-be the cheapest OEM headlights I have ever seen.. That includes the cost of the headlight assembly with proper reflector, bulbs, and ballast?

aren't the headlights self leveling? That alone is usually a $1k just for the headlight assembly. Ballast and bulb are separate.

FRSDREAMER 03-07-2012 11:56 PM

What makes HID's so great? I live in a Suburb that's pretty lit, even with crappy headlights, their are city lights everywhere to back you up.

fatoni 03-08-2012 01:06 AM

i the point is that if you can afford to import this car, you can afford to buy a better car

dsgerbc 03-08-2012 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by tachi1247 (Post 151653)
That includes the cost of the headlight assembly with proper reflector, bulbs, and ballast?

The whole thing

Saber_TRD 03-08-2012 08:56 PM

I'm really irked by the replies the OP is getting.

1) Why would they want to import it?
Because they want the Toyota, not the Scion, not the Subaru, maybe? Even those who are saying they're the same are admitting there are differences. Therefore not the same. There's something to be said for brand loyalty too. In the end, it has nothing to do with the OPs question.

2) Get the Scion and debadge or Subaru and change the front bumper?
Scion and rebadge is an option, unless he wants that push start then you're screwed. Unless that's in from factory you can't just add it afterward from my understanding. This option is fairly big for some people from what I've seen. Also may run into issues doing a full rebadge, might not be able to fully remove all traces of Scion, same goes for Subaru.

The Subaru has a different suspension setup from what Subaru said and Subaru styling he may not want, like that silver part on the dash for example.

Again, also has nothing to do with what was asked by the OP.

3) Cheaper not to do it.
This has always pissed me off. Who cares if it's cheaper? You might but some people really don't care how much they spend as long as it's what they want. If someone wants to spend large amounts of their own money then let them. It's their money. It's also their time.

Once again, nothing to do with what was asked by the OP.

4) It's a stupid question.
No question is stupid, the idea may not be the best or the most cost effective but a question is never stupid. In this case the OPs question is to gain information so they can make a decision of if they want to do something or not. Give them the information and let them decide what they want to do instead of pushing your ideas on them like some religious bible thumper.

You guessed it, once again, nothing to do with what was asked by the OP.


Now, can someone seriously answer the OPs question? Please.

TL DR - The replies have nothing to do with what the OP asked, someone answer the OPs question please.


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