Build Happening soon.....2jz Swap
 

Hi guys. So I have been doing research and I am in talks with my shop and I will be doing a 2jz swap with my FRS.

My plan and goal is to have this build done by the time January gets here as I will be in school for my master's and have to space out everything. I have enough to get decently started as I was offered a good deal on my GTR and have plenty of cash left over but school is my main priority. I will keep everybody updated.

My primary reason for the build is to take advantage of the cars lightweight and after talking with some of my supra buddies they pointed me in the right direction for when I select the turbo kit I want for it.

I could do the LS swap but I feel that is overdone and I am staying with the import side. Plus the bay is not nearly as cramped with a 2jz vs. a LS motor. Plus that throws off the weight distribution soooo much. And i still like my turns haha

Goals are to be at mid 500s seeing as this car will be my next daily. And on kill mode I want to have it at mid 600s. The stock blocks are good for power up to high 700s but I don't want to go that crazy yet (maybe after school :thumbup:)

Wish me luck and I am looking forward to how this will turn out.

And if anybody doesn't think it can be done

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0yOLLo8STs&feature=player_embedded"]Maxxis Tires Driver Ryan Tuerck - 2JZ Scion FRS Test - YouTube[/ame]

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cool! keep us posted. personally if i had the cash, i'd probably do a twincharged 1j or a built 3sgte.

Awesome! really wanna see how it turns out.

Haha I almost considered the 1j. I think why I didn't was because I wanted to always try to build a supra motor.....but I know if push came to shove that would be an interesting build to look at as well.

While I'll probably just build the stock motor a few years down the road. Keep us in the loop and fab up some motor mounts for a few brave souls to be able to do this on their car.

I remember looking at Supras just before buying this car. I really wanted one but they are just too ragged out lately for a $40k car. And I couldn't constantly fly out to look at cars that I end up not buying.

...wouldn't a 2JZ swap be harder to do? Unless I'm thinking about this wrong an In-line 6 should be longer than the LS based V8. The FA20 with only two cylinders on a side is a really short motor and frankly I'm surprised an LS will fit.

Hell, of a 2JZ fits into an FT86 I'm going to shoehorn one of these into mine... :D

http://www.kmsracingengines.com/best...E46_S54_M3.jpg

I understand what you mean bro. It is really hard to find some Supras that have been well taken cared of. And the ones that are well maintained cost a decent amount of money. And I will keep everybody updated.

A guy in Bahrain (ekanooracing) did this swap. Bad ass. Good luck!

I believe supra motors weigh ~400lbs
Ls1 motors are ~400lbs as well

I think the pushrod v8 would be better for keeping the weight distribution closer to stock when compared to an inline 6. Just saying.

The cog should be closer to stock as well with the v8

They are around the same weight with the 2j being just a bit lighter. Now my reasons for mainly going with the motor choice I want is because 1) the engine bay is not nearly as cramped to work in as compared to having a LS motor in the car 2) The 2j will be cheaper in the long run compared to the LS motor and more modifications would be needed as I plan to boot it 3) From what I have researched the v8 would hurt the weight distribution of such a light car on a road course than a 2j

Now if I was focused on just straight-line speed I would look at the LS swap but even then I would've just kept my GTR if that were the case. I want this car to be well balance through all disciplines (auto x, road race, drift, drag) and that is the main goal I want to achieve with this build.

:bow::bow::bow: this makes me happy

Good luck, I know built 2jz's can have some serious power although...

The rumor is someone will be showing up at sema with a 1000+ hp built FA20.

LS swap would be easier and cheaper with having the domestic and local aftermarket support

what motor are you using, one from an IS300, GS?

i feel you on this one. i was lookin into supras pretty seriously too, but i couldn't bare to drop 20g's on a fair conditioned over mileage car likely to have many problems the owner wasn't telling me about. but then the 86 came out and saved my money. lol

I will be using one from a supra.

My shop has a good connect that can get me 2j motors for a fairly decent price and they are in good condition. With as many 2j swaps they do it was a safe bet.

Why not just have them build a low compression fa20 and turbo it?

Psh.. screw the 2jz and go with the 4age. :P

Just a heads up, the 2JZ is significantly heavier than the LS1. It's an iron block vs aluminum. 2JZ = 600ish lbs, LS1 = 400ish lbs.

The 2JZ is going to put a large forward bias on the car vs the LS1 or stock FA20/4U-GSE. If you put a 2JZ in this car, it's going to accel at drag/drift.. if you put the LS1 or build stock, it'll be whatever you build it for.

At least that's the info I've been scrounging up. I've been putting my 2JZ build together for the past few months, since before I bought the car. With only 5-600whp you're going to be teetering on the threshold of reliability on supporting components (axles, diff, etc). I'm looking into the 8.8 rear end swap that FullBlown is putting together. Should be a good buy for me.

anyone else worried if the chassis can handle this kind of power?

The chassis, I believe, can. The components required to put that power on the ground, can't.

Axles and diff subjected to four times the power will be breaking. The e.Kanoo swap broke an axle at under 500whp. FullBlown teamed up with Drive Shaft Shop and already made a rear diff/axle conversion w/ driveshaft. The swap is perceived to cost in excess of $2-3k, though.

I don't know what our stock hubs are capable of either. I was looking into the HardRace/Megan hub swap but I discarded that a few weeks ago.

I dont believe that our cars would be safe making seriously big power. Im looking for 800whp, but thats about it. I was thinking about swapping in my built 2urgse, but the engine builder forbid it as it would be too dangerous for a street car.

Mechanic with a conscience... that's rare.

What about the Subaru H6 with a turbo or super charger?

How about 2 JZ's with NOS bro?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9.../Funny/2jz.jpg

Updates?

why would you swap this motor in, for the cost why didnt u just buy a faster car to begin with?

The swap with a limited brz would be around 55$k including the car.

What car is 2700 lbs, rwd, looks good, has the power output capabilities of a 2jzgte, and in this price range with a completed swap?

the new corvette is pretty close... starts at $51k, curb weight is a bit higher at 3300 but its got the power to start and has room for more, looks great, and has RWD

Even if it's close.. there's still not very many choices still in that price range.

Besides it's over 500lbs weight difference and that's a base model vette. If you start with an FRS it would be less. Anyways, it's the fun factor of a having a custom build which isn't easy.

A S54B32 motor in an FT86 would be an amazing swap :drool:

Any updates on your build? Seems like there are only a handful out there.

http://oi58.tinypic.com/2qntvk1.jpg

You can always get both. lol That's what I plan to do once the C7s drop a little in price. :)

What about weight balance? Wouldn't the longer (longitudinally) 2jz push the weight further out front? That is, unless one can mount it even farther back than the FA20.

Also, OP, I take it you've also sourced the transmission as well?

Because this way is MUCH more personally satisfying? ;)

Full interior, Ac , all electronics working and also abs/ traction




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Not bad. Still unbalances more than stock (stock distribution is closer to 53/47, iirc), but that's not too bad.

I guess if you get too much front dive, you can put in stiffer springs, or if you begin to lose the rear traction at higher power and speeds, you can always add aero to plant its ass back down onto the road ;).

Horse.

A loaded 2JZ (longblock, accessories, turbos) without flywheel is over 500lbs wet.

That is exactly what I ordered for my race suspension last week. Stiffer spring upfront and softer spring in the rear; rates 11(f) and 7(r) respectfully.

I am curious to find out the final weight for my car (2JZ BRZ). I will definitely keep everyone posted once we wrap up on the project and I get her to a weight station. Got a feeling I'm going to love this plump SOB. ;)

what suspension did you end up with? :)

Stance Pro Comp 2 w/ Swift Springs

More info on the coilovers can be found here :)

http://www.driftndrag.com/images/2JZ...rs-BRZ-FRS.jpg

sick! I heard good things about their race suspension. :party0030: