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Efferalgan 07-04-2013 04:31 PM

Luckily I can always say GT86 without further explanations needed, unless I want to tell the whole story :)

OnkelC 07-04-2013 04:34 PM

it's sold as the Toyota GT86 here, so I refer to it as that.

Bristecom 07-04-2013 04:46 PM

I just call it "the FR-S" but I don't call it a "Scion" unless asked.

Sasquachulator 07-04-2013 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by regal (Post 1045035)
There is a reason its a Scion here and it wasn't to help the Scion brand, the FR-S caused the Scion to hit dead last in the JD Powers. Toyota couldn't afford to take a hit like that with JDPowers and they saw it a mile before launch.

If the quality issues get worked out, Toyota is posed to claim the GT86 in the US and shut down Scion. If the quality issues persist, scion will lose their customer base and this will just end up another discontinued sports car.

I've heard that Tada is not such a golden child after what the FR-S did to Scion's ranking in JDPowers and is off the Supra project , JDPowers is a big deal for the USA market, Scion went from very high on the list in to dead last worst in the industry. Rumor is the 2014 was delayed from the typical July release because of this.

That's the first time I have ever heard of this particular tinfoil hat conspiracy. And for the record, Scion has always been below Toyota in JD power quality surveys.

Obja 07-04-2013 05:37 PM

it bothers me when people call my car a "Toyota GT86"

i WISH it was, but it's an FRS

Sacs 07-04-2013 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by autogyro (Post 1044481)
We call it the 86 to refer to the car, however just to complicate matters, the base model is 86 GT, not just 86. Upper spec as you've said, 86 GTS. I think in Japan the top spec is the 86 GT Limited. Good job Toyota marketing.

For completeness, I should also mention that NZ gets the TRD86 & TR86. :-)

And to get the FRS crowd really wound up, the 86RC !!

http://the86.co.nz/86RC/

Some cool pics here:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/motoring/n...33857#11559881

wilson0326 07-04-2013 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overland'n'5thGEN (Post 1044334)
GT86 because it confuses people. That is why I have Toyota emblems on it.

Kinda off topic but where did you get the Toyota emblem?

OrangeJuleas 07-04-2013 07:33 PM

What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet...

Moto-P 07-04-2013 07:44 PM

I'll just call it a Scion FRS since that just clarifies what it is, and where they can go to buy one if they like my car so much, and know the name of what to ask for.

Since, after 10 years, most of the people who can actually afford a $25,000 new car today, are usually in the know of Scion being very much, a Toyota, and there's no reason to really fool anyone that it is anything else. The FRS/GT86/86 and even the BRZ is made in the same exact factory, so there really isn't a significant difference, except for the fact that most North Americans pay roughly $26,000 for a decently equipped one, and Subaru BRZ Limited and FR-S 10th Anniversary with luxury features cost about $30,000, and everyone else in the world pays $30,000+ starting bare-bone, and depending on the local import taxes, can go as high as $50,000+. So you can tell folks in America that they are getting a BARGAIN!!

strat61caster 07-05-2013 02:09 PM

People who don't know "Scion"

People who do "Toyobaru"

Trojan_SC 07-05-2013 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grey (Post 1044512)
What's on your registration? Then that's what you have. Pretty simple.

So then I have a Toyota FR-S? Now I'm even more confused. Lol

lantsalot 07-05-2013 03:10 PM

To be honest, i do both. Mine is badged as a toyota though, so there is no real way for me to answer it without confusing people.

Ammonia 07-05-2013 07:33 PM

On my bill of sale it says, and I quote:

"Toyota Scion FR-S"

I just call it an FR-S, really. I had this issue when I had my 135i. 80% of the people I talked to didn't even know BMW made a 1-series. So I just called it whatever I felt like calling it that day. Usually "something fast".

cfusionpm 07-05-2013 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nothing (Post 1044414)
Toyota GT86 because I refuse to call it a Scion. I did for the first week and people made faces or said something like "one of those cube things?" :barf: Face it, this is what the Scion brand has become.

So I don't care if people are confused. I prefer to call it a Toyota GT86 even if they don't know what it is. And yes, I have all the correct badges to justify it.

The tC makes up for about half (or more) of all Scion sales every year. If anything, I see the brand associated with a well-priced 2 door sport-ish coupe. Maybe I'm biased because I owned a tC for 8 years before my FR-S, but I call it what it is. It's no better than people who put H badges on their Integras or Silvia logos on their 240SX.


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