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Canibuz 03-03-2012 08:00 PM

Stupid Question
 
Will push starting (rolling start) work with Push to start (ie Limited BRZ)? I will probably opt for the battery warmer. Sometimes in the north east it can get pretty cold and a battery will act dead, but once the temp goes up the battery will test perfectly fine. In my past cars I've only had to roll start once or twice a winter max. Just wondering if it is possible with this ignition system. I am guessing push start button once to get into ACC then roll start...??:iono:

Snoopyalien24 03-03-2012 08:11 PM

Hmm I would like to know this too.

I read this somewhere, "electronics have nothing to do with it, its the pump location. Yes, certain 60s cars will work."

:iono:

old greg 03-03-2012 08:43 PM

I don't see why not.

Just roll the car in neutral, jump in, clutch in, second gear, hold start button, clutch out then right back in again.

Draco-REX 03-04-2012 08:43 AM

If the car is "ON" it should start up.

neutron256 03-04-2012 09:34 AM

I wouldn't count on a push start working. Newer cars are very dependent on the ECU to provide the right conditions to start. Also a battery that won't start the car in the cold is bad even if it tests good when warm. It's just a matter of time before it will start having problems all the time. This will be a new car, with a new battery, it should be at least a few years before you have to worry about any battey problems.

WhiteGDB 03-04-2012 11:15 AM

This is a good question. Anyone with a proximity push start know how to get your car into the ON II position without starting your car? You know where you can operate your power windows, ac fan, etc.

Oh to the OP, welcome. Glad you decided to make a new thread that's worthwhile.

Snoopyalien24 03-04-2012 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteGDB (Post 148461)
This is a good question. Anyone with a proximity push start know how to get your car into the ON II position without starting your car? You know where you can operate your power windows, ac fan, etc.

Oh to the OP, welcome. Glad you decided to make a new thread that's worthwhile.

lol he was a prevous senior member who just changed his name...

WhiteGDB 03-04-2012 12:25 PM

Explains the lack of noobiness in his post.

Calum 03-04-2012 12:32 PM

In Rhode Island?!? Synthetic oil alone would solve this, unless your battery is old then the obvious thing is to change it.

Jeff Lange 03-04-2012 12:33 PM

In push-start cars I've used, it's basically like in any other car. Push the start button twice to get to "On", then push start the car, just like if you turned your key to "On" and then push started it.

I've done it in my Lexus, only to see if it worked. I can't imagine ever having to do this if everything in the car is right, I mean maybe once the car is old and crappy, but in a new(er) car? Doubtful.

Jeff

yayforaddison 03-04-2012 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco-REX (Post 148440)
If the car is "ON" it should start up.

If the battery is dead, you can't turn a push start button to "ON" :slap:

I honestly don't see this working. The electronics aren't going to come on just because your pushing it (the car itself), and let the clutch out in a car that can't be turned on without the electrical part (the push button). With a key, you actually have to leave the key switched to the "on" position. You can't do that if you can't "turn" the key to that position when it relies on battery juice.


Meh but then I think, as long as someone is inside holding the button down while you let the clutch out... Then maybeeeeeeee. But the car is probably thinking its "off" the whole time, because it won't let juice feed to the battery while its "off".


Im lost.

yayforaddison 03-04-2012 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lange (Post 148490)
In push-start cars I've used, it's basically like in any other car. Push the start button twice to get to "On", then push start the car, just like if you turned your key to "On" and then push started it.

I've done it in my Lexus, only to see if it worked. I can't imagine ever having to do this if everything in the car is right, I mean maybe once the car is old and crappy, but in a new(er) car? Doubtful.

Jeff

You said you've done it in your Lexus, but your Lexus had a working battery. How are you going to push the button twice to get the switch "ON" if the battery were dead??

neutron256 03-04-2012 12:57 PM

I think some people are confusing "Push-to-start" with "push starting" which is what the OP was asking about.

WhiteGDB 03-04-2012 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neutron256 (Post 148502)
I think some people are confusing "Push-to-start" with "push starting" which is what the OP was asking about.

Looks like everyone is on the same page to me:iono:

Although I'm still trying to figure out this one:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Calum (Post 148489)
In Rhode Island?!? Synthetic oil alone would solve this, unless your battery is old then the obvious thing is to change it.

Also yayforaddsion, a battery can have enough juice to power the accessories but not enough to start an engine.


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