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Dorb 06-19-2013 10:05 PM

JD Powers quality survey
 
Wow, Scion took it on the chin because of the FRS... Last place! I think Subaru was around 26th,27th.

dirkXPC 06-19-2013 10:24 PM

One must take large amounts of salt with JD Powers Initial Quality Surveys simply due to the definition of "problem" in these surveys. Ford looks bad but it is primarily due to the MyFord Touch system - whenever someone registers a complaint about not understanding how to use it, it's listed as a problem in the IQS. I'm sure part of the reason Porsche tops the IQS list is because every single item in a Porsche is an option, thus fewer things to complain about (love the cars, but should rear window wipers and bi-xenon headlights really be options on a $65k Cayman S?)

Sure, some FR-Ss and BRZs have had legitimate initial quality problems (idle dip, tail light condensation, BRZ GPS signal), but I doubt that's a significant portion of us owners. I'm also sure there are plenty of non-issues that would be considered problems.

In any case, if anyone's looking for the list you can find it here:
http://autos.jdpower.com/content/pre...lity-study.htm

Dorb 06-19-2013 10:34 PM

I read it from USA today, will put a link to it when not on my iPad. Thanks for the link above.

USATODAY link
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...-ford/2437115/

BRZnut 06-19-2013 10:52 PM

Looks like the BRZ initial quality is in the basement...

http://autos.jdpower.com/research/Su...oupe/index.htm


http://autos.jdpower.com/research/Su...pe/ratings.htm

jariten 06-19-2013 11:14 PM

From a previous thread:

I don't really take the IQS seriously. C&D did an article a few years ago

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...-study-feature

Cliff's notes from the article, JD Power equally counts 'people being annoyed with buttons on a radio' with 'people with blown engines' as 'problems'. No individual or company can see the details unless they're willing to pay JD Power some large sum of money.

Aka, the survey is nonsense and no one should pay attention to it.

thill 06-20-2013 12:20 AM

Not good. I have to say, I hope this becomes an eye opener for Subaru and Scion. Within the last 15 months I have purchased three new cars. One from Hyundai, one from Honda, and one from Subaru. With both Hyundai and Honda I received numerous calls and emails from both the dealer and corporate on my experience, issues, concers, etc. Had the BRZ almost a month and nothing.. Nada.. They really should be getting feedback and taking it more seriously. I know the twins are selling well, but that will not continue if the cars are viewed as problematic and unreliable.

dsgerbc 06-20-2013 01:24 AM

Seems like they deserved it. You can't expect people to be happy if they are getting "it's normal" answers to their issues instead of real fixes.

sho220 06-20-2013 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorb (Post 1012489)
Wow, Scion took it on the chin because of Subaru... Last place! I think Subaru was around 26th,27th.

lol...fixed!!! :happyanim:

strat61caster 06-20-2013 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsgerbc (Post 1012901)
Seems like they deserved it. You can't expect people to be happy if they are getting "it's normal" answers to their issues instead of real fixes.

Which "issues"?

Dorb 06-20-2013 07:55 AM

Come to think of it I believe JD Powers was one of the 3 surveys I filled out.

Wonder if it helped Subaru with having 2 different models to pick from. Maybe not as many complaints with the limited maybe. I know I didn't care for and my wife hated the quality of the interior on the FRS we tested, after that it was only the limited to check out.

WolfpackS2k 06-20-2013 09:43 AM

I complained about several things when I filled out the JD Power survey.

Doug&Julie 06-20-2013 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k (Post 1013321)
I complained about several things when I filled out the JD Power survey.

I'm not going to lie...I did too. Overall I'm thrilled with the car, but when you break down each little area of the car, there are plenty of things to pick on. Do they affect my driving enjoyment? ..no. But they look bad on survey results. But I wanted to be honest in hopes that Subaru will improve them.

Brzetto 06-20-2013 11:14 AM

This was seen near JD power's office, reports of large quantities of salt.

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__...lt_Vampire.jpg

was385 06-20-2013 11:19 AM

This isn't all that surprising. Generally, any new car (because they're going to come with new car issues) will drop a company down. It has much more to do with who has released new cars and who has merely updated current production vehicles, than it does with the company's ability to produce a quality car.


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