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no_name 02-27-2012 11:17 AM

Digging up old AE86 revival rumors
 
Having actually owned an AE86 as a daily driver for 2 years (before it fell apart), this sounds way more like the car I used to have.

A 2007 article:
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/08/01/r...-more-details/

"The new article goes into some detail of the new car's spec. Under 4m long and 1.7m wide, it's pretty low at 1.35m tall, and engineers have been directed to keep weight below 1,000kgs. Power will come from a 1.5L 2NZ-FE good for 120 horsepower. What has been unknown until this time is where Toyota would source a cheap RWD drivetrain, but Best Car has learned that it will come from new partner Fuji Heavy Industries - better known to you and me as Subaru.


And the best news of all? The committee's final directive is to keep the new car's sticker price below 1.5million Yen. That's about $12,300 USD in today's money."

7thgear 02-27-2012 11:36 AM

lol

i don't think we'll be seeing sub ton cars for under 50k, ever.

saftey standards are just too high for people to skimp on sheet metal.

blur 02-27-2012 11:40 AM

Would be awesome though, it's like DD a go kart lol

bneale 02-27-2012 11:59 AM

I read the article. It talks about said car being in showrooms come Winter 2008.

Is the article actually talking about the FR-S/BRZ/GT86 here? My guess is that it is. What other car matches the linage of an AE86 better then the GT86?

I suspect there really is no 2nd AE86 and the article is talking about the GT86 before the details became known to the world.

bneale

2fast4you 02-27-2012 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bneale (Post 143267)
I read the article. It talks about said car being in showrooms come Winter 2008.

Is the article actually talking about the FR-S/BRZ/GT86 here? My guess is that it is. What other car matches the linage of an AE86 better then the GT86?

I suspect there really is no 2nd AE86 and the article is talking about the GT86 before the details became known to the world.

bneale

That article was talking about what would become the FT-86.

Laika 02-27-2012 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bneale (Post 143267)
I read the article. It talks about said car being in showrooms come Winter 2008.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:


I thoroughly remember this article. I wish I could go back in the past and tell myself to anticipate a longer wait...by almost 4 years.

Snoopyalien24 02-27-2012 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Laika (Post 143389)
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:


I thoroughly remember this article. I wish I could go back in the past and tell myself to anticipate a longer wait...by almost 4 years.

Shows you how much work and passion went into the Zx6

Laika 02-27-2012 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24 (Post 143396)
Shows you how much work and passion went into the Zx6

Agreed. Also shows how much passion we put into following this car :D

AIRMAX 02-27-2012 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 7thgear (Post 143252)
lol

i don't think we'll be seeing sub ton cars for under 50k, ever.

saftey standards are just too high for people to skimp on sheet metal.


+1


A 1000kg (sub 1 ton car) would mean plenty of carbon fiber parts, aluminum chassis etc. In today's safety requirements its almost impossible to make a MASS produce cheap 1 ton car...


Civic late 90s Type R, did it (920kg), but that would FAIL safety standards today... heck my MR2 SW20 would also fail.... I mean have you guys seen crash photos of MR2s??.... frontal crash = 50% compression of the car, most likely the engine bay and Rear Half would be structurally identifiable, but the front half would be compressed to a pancake.

4agze 02-27-2012 10:22 PM

it was 2009 officially toyota said that they are working with subaru to make a rwd coupe, then this forum poped up on autoblog.com then hachi posting fresh and new pictures almost every month, ahhh its still fresh in my mind lol.

Matador 02-27-2012 10:46 PM

^MR2 spyder = sub tonne car.

Draco-REX 02-27-2012 11:53 PM

That article is a great example of how full of it journalists are when it comes to cars that aren't out yet. I remember articles that said the '08 STI was supposed to be a 2-door hatch with 350hp, and a sedan would be available that year too.

The only reliable info comes direct from the horse's mouth. Anything else is speculation at best.

DSR2409 02-28-2012 12:04 AM

Like this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L2_63UBNxU

I wonder what ever happened to this concept?

2fast4you 02-28-2012 02:37 AM

Anyone remember this?

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...oxer-coupe.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...er/toyota2.jpg

ChrisH 02-28-2012 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AIRMAX (Post 143759)
+1


A 1000kg (sub 1 ton car) would mean plenty of carbon fiber parts, aluminum chassis etc. In today's safety requirements its almost impossible to make a MASS produce cheap 1 ton car...


Civic late 90s Type R, did it (920kg), but that would FAIL safety standards today... heck my MR2 SW20 would also fail.... I mean have you guys seen crash photos of MR2s??.... frontal crash = 50% compression of the car, most likely the engine bay and Rear Half would be structurally identifiable, but the front half would be compressed to a pancake.

This is probably the point: Mass production!

For little series car a lot is possible: 800 kg, the Ginetta G40R - the only real competition for the GT86/BRZ
But not sure, if ever available in LHD, and very small production numers.
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Laika 02-28-2012 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AIRMAX (Post 143759)
+1


A 1000kg (sub 1 ton car) would mean plenty of carbon fiber parts, aluminum chassis etc. In today's safety requirements its almost impossible to make a MASS produce cheap 1 ton car...


Civic late 90s Type R, did it (920kg), but that would FAIL safety standards today... heck my MR2 SW20 would also fail.... I mean have you guys seen crash photos of MR2s??.... frontal crash = 50% compression of the car, most likely the engine bay and Rear Half would be structurally identifiable, but the front half would be compressed to a pancake.


I had an SW20. Wasn't it purposely designed to compress that way to protect the ****pit? I know many cars are meant to be more or less totaled during a major collision in order to keep the occupants safe.

Not something I'm sure about with the SW20, just venturing a guess. And if I'm wrong I sure am glad I don't own that anymore.


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