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Captain Snooze 06-12-2013 08:08 AM

Koyo Radiator vs Oil Cooler
 
How much is one better over the other? I appreciate that an oil cooler would (probably) be better at keeping the oil cool but would an after market radiator be better at keeping the engine and oil cool? I ask because it is my opinion that an aftermarket radiator is more elegant. That is, there are no additional hoses/pipes in the engine bay but I suspect that an oil cooler would be more beneficial.

rx3 06-12-2013 08:58 AM

Sorry, I'm not directly answering your question.
But if you were to install a vented hood, airflow through the radiator and around the (oil-filled) motor block should also be improved:
http://body-kitz.com/contents/en-us/...by_Seibon.html

(Some cars also had vented hoods in stock configuration:
http://www.classicscars.com/rally/205t16new/car1.jpg )

Captain Snooze 06-12-2013 09:01 AM

Thanks rx3 for your reply. I have considered this but I would have to get the original hood modified as a carbon fibre hood is not street legal here.

504 06-12-2013 09:21 AM

Oil temps on this car rise really quickly (above 100 degrees easy) even on street spirited driving while coolant seems to hold a constant 92 degrees Celsius (obtained from data on this forum). Personally I'd address the oil cooling first because oil contacts all critical engine components directly and can transfer heat from them much more efficiently. Also since this car takes 0W20 which isn't exactly thick, it would be good insurance to keep the oil from thinning too much from heat.

With an oil cooler, you will need more oil for oil changes and when it does get changed, the oil in the cooler and lines don't actually drain. just something to consider.

With that being said, the radiator probably isn't the bottleneck of the cars cooling abilities

rx3 06-12-2013 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 504
Also since this car takes 0W20 which isn't exactly thick, it would be good insurance to keep the oil from thinning too much from heat.

I switched to 0W-40 (Motul 300V) for this reason.

No Limit Motorsport 06-12-2013 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rx3 (Post 997194)
I switched to 0W-40 (Motul 300V) for this reason.

A lot of people overlook a GOOD oil at helping keep oil temps in check and stable.

These cars get really hot, really fast. Add in forced induction and even more so. Sometimes I feel like I am dealing with a rotary.

OrbitalEllipses 06-12-2013 10:33 AM

I doubt this engine will EVER be as temperamental as a rotary.

DAN_BRZ 06-12-2013 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by No Limit Motorsport (Post 997206)
A lot of people overlook a GOOD oil at helping keep oil temps in check and stable.

These cars get really hot, really fast. Add in forced induction and even more so. Sometimes I feel like I am dealing with a rotary.

what would you consider to be a good oil? any recommendations?

Hanakuso 06-20-2013 05:59 PM

I was almost 100% set on going with an oil cooler first, but if a bigger radiator like the Koyo can give similar results like an oil cooler I rather go that route. Can anyone else give an explanation between the two?

For the price of a good oil cooler (Perrin) vs radiator (Koyo), it's about half the price for the radiator.

kmbkk 06-20-2013 06:12 PM

I went with a radiator first. My thinking is if the coolant cools faster, and more, it'll help cool the engine better, in turn helping keep the oil a little cooler. I have no empirical data to back this up, just my opinion. Also, I have a vented CF hood to help the hot air escape better.

Captain Snooze 06-20-2013 07:14 PM

I've ordered the Perrin oil cooler. From what I have read water temperatures don't get nearly as bad as oil temps. Ah well, everything's a compromise except for those things that aren't.

ATL BRZ 06-20-2013 07:18 PM

What I don't understand is why the oil cooler kits cost 2x as much as a big ass aluminum radiator from Koyo...

ichitaka05 06-20-2013 07:20 PM

Not convincing anyone, but I'll be going w oil cooler first over aftermarket radiator... but that's just me.

spitz 06-20-2013 07:41 PM

Oil Cooler first for me. Same logic as many above.


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