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-   -   Got a track related question? I'll try to answer. (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38926)

bjun 11-06-2014 12:53 AM

http://i60.tinypic.com/23kvfns.jpg

I don't know why my picture turned sideways, but besides the rear camber, does my alignment look ok for track setup? I already purchased whiteline rear LCA to fix my huge negative camber in rear

DocWalt 11-06-2014 11:40 AM

IMO not enough front camber. You'll wear the outside shoulders of the tire pretty heavily. Toe is pretty much what I'd aim for (maybe a bit less rear toe? not sure how sensitive the BRZ is to that)

bjun 11-06-2014 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DocWalt (Post 2012604)
IMO not enough front camber. You'll wear the outside shoulders of the tire pretty heavily. Toe is pretty much what I'd aim for (maybe a bit less rear toe? not sure how sensitive the BRZ is to that)

If I bring the rear camber to -2.5 how much front camber should I have to have optimal track performance? I don't daily my car so wearing out tire isn't too much issue but also do not want extreme alignment setting that would destroy my tiree prematurely

DocWalt 11-06-2014 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bjun (Post 2012648)
If I bring the rear camber to -2.5 how much front camber should I have to have optimal track performance? I don't daily my car so wearing out tire isn't too much issue but also do not want extreme alignment setting that would destroy my tiree prematurely

I'd personally go for somewhere in the -2 to -2.5 range. Your toe settings are more critical for tire wear on the street, and as close to 0 as you can get will minimize inside shoulder wear.

I'll let someone with more track experience with this platform give you better numbers, but check the alignment threads on the forums.

CSG Mike 11-06-2014 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bjun (Post 2012328)
http://i60.tinypic.com/23kvfns.jpg

I don't know why my picture turned sideways, but besides the rear camber, does my alignment look ok for track setup? I already purchased whiteline rear LCA to fix my huge negative camber in rear

How much experience do you have?

Do you have camber plates?

What kind of tires and suspension do you have? It seems you're slammed if you're at -3.3 without arms.

bjun 11-06-2014 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 2012874)
How much experience do you have?

Do you have camber plates?

What kind of tires and suspension do you have? It seems you're slammed if you're at -3.3 without arms.

No camber plates. And not much experience.

I have the hankook evo2s 255/18. Kwv3 coilovers, ptuning front+rear sways and whiteline endlinks. About to install whiteline lca. I'm not slammed but I did get rid of wheel gap.

CSG Mike 11-06-2014 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bjun (Post 2013065)
No camber plates. And not much experience.

I have the hankook evo2s 255/18. Kwv3 coilovers, ptuning front+rear sways and whiteline endlinks. About to install whiteline lca. I'm not slammed but I did get rid of wheel gap.

If you're interested in tracking with KW V3, you need to raise your car.

bjun 11-07-2014 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 2013417)
If you're interested in tracking with KW V3, you need to raise your car.

Yea I figured my cars a bit low but I hate wheel gaps lol
But I've tracked like this before and it wasn't so bad. Actually it still performed well. But I think the camber is too much. I like the toe. So what camber front/rear would you suggest? I was thinking -2f/-2.5r

CSG Mike 11-07-2014 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by bjun (Post 2013620)
Yea I figured my cars a bit low but I hate wheel gaps lol
But I've tracked like this before and it wasn't so bad. Actually it still performed well. But I think the camber is too much. I like the toe. So what camber front/rear would you suggest? I was thinking -2f/-2.5r

You can hate wheel gaps all you want, but as you develop as a driver, you will run into problems.

This is a thread for performance driving applications, and I'm telling you that you're too low for a performance application of the KW V3. You're gonna run out of stroke length, and that'll cause your rear end to respond erratically.

Do you want to look pretty or go fast?

You could, theoretically, do both, but not with a KW V3.

bkblitzed 11-07-2014 03:35 AM

all this talk about camber is making me want to get camber plates on my fronts.. Tired of having 1.5 lol

bjun 11-07-2014 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 2013627)
You can hate wheel gaps all you want, but as you develop as a driver, you will run into problems.

This is a thread for performance driving applications, and I'm telling you that you're too low for a performance application of the KW V3. You're gonna run out of stroke length, and that'll cause your rear end to respond erratically.

Do you want to look pretty or go fast?

You could, theoretically, do both, but not with a KW V3.

Which performance coilover would you recommend?

troek 11-07-2014 10:52 AM

how low are you exactly?

bjun 11-07-2014 11:06 AM

I don't feel like I'm too low. I don't find it difficult driving on normal streets. I am still like 3 inches off the ground on front and like 5 inches in rear from the rear diffuser. However, I am on max low on front as KW will take me(I know this is bad for handling) but in the rear my coils have plenty more to drop.

jvincent 11-07-2014 11:14 AM

@bjun, please don't take this personally, but have you read the following thread?

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67345


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