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retrosmiths 08-06-2013 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ZDan (Post 1121973)
What specific make/model tire? That's WAY more important than 225 vs 215. Are they trackworthy, have they been tracked, and if so, how many heat cycles?

Actually, just a couple of random used tires. Used because this next event I'm going to is more of a drift-practice skid-pad event and last time I went, my stock tires lost a lot of thread.

CSG Mike 08-06-2013 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retrosmiths (Post 1121998)
Actually, just a couple of random used tires. Used because this next event I'm going to is more of a drift-practice skid-pad event and last time I went, my stock tires lost a lot of thread.

Just use the cheap tires, but match the compounds front/rear so that the car is more predictable :thumbsup:

retrosmiths 08-06-2013 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 1122019)
Just use the cheap tires, but match the compounds front/rear so that the car is more predictable :thumbsup:

Ok, I'll switch back to the stock tires and just keep the used ones as backup instead of the other way around. This way I'll have the same compound for all 4.

Carlysh 08-07-2013 11:58 PM

my first autox
 
Hi cgs mike I love reading your article its help a lot to the comunity I have a couple of question that would like your experts skill

1) on sunday I am going to my first autox the car is bone stock I just want to learn how it is and learn the car behavior any tips you can give when I arrive there, also any concern on the car i have to be aware of, i am gonna try my first time with aids of to start like that

2)I want to buy a set of coilover since I want to autox and track racing that help me on lap times but still maintain a good daily driver since some times I am gonna use it for work and the wife is gonna use it I am aware that if I buy coilover the car will be a bit stiffer and feel more bump I don't mind so wich one you can recomend me I am planning to buy 18 wheels Xxr 527 since I like them and in my area nobody run thems they are 18x8.75 35+ and on widht tires I was thinking front 225/40/18 and rear 245/40/18 since I like that stance of people watching my ass lol oh and most important a good option of tires that I go DD but take a weekend abuse and 3 hours drive lol since my tracks are far away

Thanks for your time and help sorry if I miss something I am a little noob on forums

CSG Mike 08-08-2013 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlysh (Post 1126654)
Hi cgs mike I love reading your article its help a lot to the comunity I have a couple of question that would like your experts skill

1) on sunday I am going to my first autox the car is bone stock I just want to learn how it is and learn the car behavior any tips you can give when I arrive there, also any concern on the car i have to be aware of, i am gonna try my first time with aids of to start like that

2)I want to buy a set of coilover since I want to autox and track racing that help me on lap times but still maintain a good daily driver since some times I am gonna use it for work and the wife is gonna use it I am aware that if I buy coilover the car will be a bit stiffer and feel more bump I don't mind so wich one you can recomend me I am planning to buy 18 wheels Xxr 527 since I like them and in my area nobody run thems they are 18x8.75 35+ and on widht tires I was thinking front 225/40/18 and rear 245/40/18 since I like that stance of people watching my ass lol oh and most important a good option of tires that I go DD but take a weekend abuse and 3 hours drive lol since my tracks are far away

Thanks for your time and help sorry if I miss something I am a little noob on forums

1. Listen carefully to your assigned instructor. They'll be your biggest resource for the day. Also, take a tire pressure gauge. Drive with all aids off. Leaving them on means the car is "catching" you, depriving you of the opportunity to learn from errors.

2. Leave your car stock. As you drive it more, you will discover what aspects of it you want to change. At that point, start modifying.

Deep Six 08-08-2013 12:34 AM

For anyone considering trying to learn a throttle blip technique and especially for those who may have tried but were unsuccessful I have some suggestions.

Before focusing on the physical aspects, make sure you understand the why and when portion including knowing at what stage of the braking process this should occur. Hint: trail braking probably should not be on your mind at this point.

Moving on to the physical side, consider breaking down the technique into steps that will build muscle memory. Start with simply braking using only the right edge of the pedal. Most people have years of stepping on the center of the pedal which needs to be unlearned before adding throttle blipping. When you are ready, try both the foot roll and traditional heel toe technique with the car sitting in neutral until you can maintain steady brake pressure while also completing a throttle blip. Next move on to an empty parking lot and add actual downshifting to the equation. This all may seem remedial but taking actual traffic conditions out of the process really contributes to skill development.

Carlysh 08-08-2013 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 1126716)
1. Listen carefully to your assigned instructor. They'll be your biggest resource for the day. Also, take a tire pressure gauge. Drive with all aids off. Leaving them on means the car is "catching" you, depriving you of the opportunity to learn from errors.

2. Leave your car stock. As you drive it more, you will discover what aspects of it you want to change. At that point, start modifying.

Alright thanks a lot for you help anxious for sunday to test the car true strength

ultra 08-11-2013 08:25 AM

Any thoughts on the effects of removing the rear sway bar and just keeping the stock front bar?

I'm wondering if it'd plant the rear nicely and allow me to push harder through the bends or whether the car might just become an over steering pig.

Heard about the S2K guys doing it. Curious if it's worth looking at for our cars.

ultra 08-11-2013 08:25 AM

Any thoughts on the effects of removing the rear sway bar and just keeping the stock front bar?

I'm wondering if it'd plant the rear nicely and allow me to push harder through the bends or whether the car might just become an understeering pig and lose the ability to rotate at will. I'd also not want to lose front grip.

Heard about the S2K guys doing it for AutoX. Curious if it's worth looking at for our cars (AutoX or track, pros & cons).

Currently running - coilovers (RSR), upgraded street rubber, camber + caster bushings, alignment, stock sways.

Stevo22 08-21-2013 02:22 PM

Mike,

After you have bed-in your brake pads. Is there a way to maintain the burnishing longer using a certain braking style on the street?

CSG Mike 08-21-2013 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Stevo22 (Post 1156752)
Mike,

After you have bed-in your brake pads. Is there a way to maintain the burnishing longer using a certain braking style on the street?

If heated properly, the bedding should be permanent. Generally, I brake slightly later and slightly harder than "normal", and that seems to maintain the bedding for me, as well as most of the socal track crowd that daily drive on race pads.

kiichiro 08-21-2013 02:52 PM

What does your cars alignment print sheet look like?

CSG Mike 08-21-2013 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kiichiro (Post 1156871)
What does your cars alignment print sheet look like?

We don't have one because we get our car aligned using levels and yardsticks.

Totally serious.

-3 front camber
0 toe

-2.4 rear camber
0 toe

kiichiro 08-21-2013 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 1156964)
We don't have one because we get our car aligned using levels and yardsticks.

Totally serious.

-3 front camber
0 toe

-2.4 rear camber
0 toe

Is it a full on track animal or do you street it like that? I'm seeking something between the two I think. How does that much camber feel in straight line at high speed like over hundred?


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