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swift996 06-01-2013 03:26 PM

Anyone playing with a smaller turbo?
 
I don't think I've seen anyone running with anything smaller than a GT28R sized turbo. I was curious if anyone is running or plans on running a smaller sized turbo?

My thought is with a smaller turbo that spools faster, people not wanting big power might get a better power curve to play with. Perhaps a GT2560R with 14-18psi?

Not an expert but have ran turbos in the past. I'm only looking for about 270-300whp max. The power curves look nice with the existing turbo kits on the market and seem to be pretty responsive.

SmsAlSuwaidi 06-01-2013 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by swift996 (Post 974954)
I don't think I've seen anyone running with anything smaller than a GT28R sized turbo. I was curious if anyone is running or plans on running a smaller sized turbo?

My thought is with a smaller turbo that spools faster, people not wanting big power might get a better power curve to play with. Perhaps a GT2560R with 14-18psi?

Not an expert but have ran turbos in the past. I'm only looking for about 270-300whp max. The power curves look nice with the existing turbo kits on the market and seem to be pretty responsive.

@FA20club used a 60 trim and made nice Hp (28x I think) on 5.3 psi :)

Sellout 06-01-2013 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi (Post 974971)
@FA20club used a 60 trim and made nice Hp (28x I think) on 5.3 psi :)

That ain't a small turbo.

swift996 06-01-2013 03:44 PM

I'm just curious and tossing out the idea. I would think the torque curve would be more interesting w/ a smaller turbo @ higher boost.

Sellout 06-01-2013 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by swift996 (Post 974989)
I'm just curious and tossing out the idea. I would think the torque curve would be more interesting w/ a smaller turbo @ higher boost.

Maybe. It would also be more likely to blow up than a larger turbo that hits peak boost later but makes the same torque number, maybe slower too.

Sonolin 06-01-2013 03:58 PM

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I'm not sure how "small" the AVO turbo is, but it looks pretty close to ideal IMO.

jamesm 06-01-2013 03:59 PM

so you want an avo kit?

SmsAlSuwaidi 06-01-2013 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sellout (Post 974979)
That ain't a small turbo.

It's too small for me :)


Their base kit comes with a 50 trim but I don't know about that, I feel like it doesn't have massive room for you to play with if you decide on doing so later on

Sellout 06-01-2013 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi (Post 975016)
It's too small for me :)

OP mentions a GT25, you go straight for a T3/T4... I like your style lol

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Their base kit comes with a 50 trim but I don't know about that, I feel like it doesn't have massive room for you to play with if you decide on doing so later on

Those turbos have been known to be capable of 400+whp, but by today's standards they're too laggy. You can get the same whp numbers out of a modern ball bearing turbo with a smaller/lighter wheelset that is much more responsive.

I ran a 60 trim on my Eclipse 10+ years ago, and back then it wasn't all that impressive.

nonicname 06-01-2013 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by swift996 (Post 974954)
I don't think I've seen anyone running with anything smaller than a GT28R sized turbo. I was curious if anyone is running or plans on running a smaller sized turbo?

My thought is with a smaller turbo that spools faster, people not wanting big power might get a better power curve to play with. Perhaps a GT2560R with 14-18psi?

Not an expert but have ran turbos in the past. I'm only looking for about 270-300whp max. The power curves look nice with the existing turbo kits on the market and seem to be pretty responsive.

I'm with you but this is the land of mass insecurities and compensation. Big trucks, big meals, big debts (for buying big toys).

I believe the Turbo AVO is using is about as small as it gets. If I'm correct they tested a bunch of turbos to get the optimum performance. sometimes a tiny turbo also means quick boost but nothing up top.

SmsAlSuwaidi 06-01-2013 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sellout (Post 975085)
OP mentions a GT25, you go straight for a T3/T4... I like your style lol




Those turbos have been known to be capable of 400+whp, but by today's standards they're too laggy. You can get the same whp numbers out of a modern ball bearing turbo with a smaller/lighter wheelset that is much more responsive.

I ran a 60 trim on my Eclipse 10+ years ago, and back then it wasn't all that impressive.


True they aren't the best turbos but I only mentioned them cause a guy already tested a 60trim and did present nice results. I never worked with a T3/t4 beacuse the fact i havent been in the tuning seen long enough; I'm actually a huge fan boy of the gt(gtx now ) series and are the most turbos I've got to experience :)

ft_sjo 06-01-2013 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by swift996 (Post 974954)
I don't think I've seen anyone running with anything smaller than a GT28R sized turbo. I was curious if anyone is running or plans on running a smaller sized turbo?

My thought is with a smaller turbo that spools faster, people not wanting big power might get a better power curve to play with. Perhaps a GT2560R with 14-18psi?

Not an expert but have ran turbos in the past. I'm only looking for about 270-300whp max. The power curves look nice with the existing turbo kits on the market and seem to be pretty responsive.

Based on what boost levels this engine seems to run at those power figures, i'd say at disco potato would be more appropriate (GT2860RS). I'd probably go with the larger exhaust housing too.

Sportsguy83 06-01-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonolin (Post 975007)
I'm not sure how "small" the AVO turbo is, but it looks pretty close to ideal IMO.

It's a TD05 18g with the compressor and turbine sizes inverted.

velin86 06-02-2013 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 975286)
It's a TD05 18g with the compressor and turbine sizes inverted.

What is the advantage of doing this?


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