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Cade01 05-30-2013 09:36 PM
Need help!
 
So the dealer I go to put a dent in the rocker on my car, they are offering to fix it(stud welder, slide hammer, bondo, and try to paint match it), give me just side skirts(I have to pay $175 of it) Or let me pick something out of the parts department that I assume is of a value near to the side skirts. I'm glad they are offering to do anything other than give me the finger. What is your opinion? What would you do? It's a dent that probably only I will notice, but I will notice it. Anyone have a picture of an FR-S with just the 5AD side skirts on it? I was thinking of asking for the 5AD rear wing and the TRD intake. I'm so frustrated!


Here's the damage:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ps1d6018d9.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ps2ff2697c.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...psb8939e0d.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...psc7daae4f.jpg




And the culprit:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ps4af3798d.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ps53c309d1.jpg

jstans84 05-30-2013 09:52 PM
I'd just get them to fix it.

ntron1 05-30-2013 09:52 PM
File an insurance claim with your insurer and tell the insurance company who did the damage. Get it fixed at the body shop of your choice. The Dealer will pay way before they let a claim get filed on their business insurance.

Cade01 05-30-2013 10:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ntron1 (Post 971160)
File an insurance claim with your insurer and tell the insurance company who did the damage. Get it fixed at the body shop of your choice. The Dealer will pay way before they let a claim get filed on their business insurance.
They are already offering to fix it or at least make it right, does the above options not sound reasonable?

They did quote the side skirts at over $1100 by them selves, that seems high to me, anyone have any insight on that?

Cade01 05-30-2013 10:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jstans84 (Post 971159)
I'd just get them to fix it.
I wanted to do side skirts anyway, really don't want bondo or poorly matched paint on the car. I guess this is why I'm asking opinions.

ntron1 05-30-2013 10:50 PM
"they are offering to fix it(stud welder, slide hammer, bondo, and try to paint match it)" Does not instill confidence for me. "try" to paint match? Your car your choice but I would not be playing lets make a deal with a "Stealership". YMMV :)

Cade01 05-30-2013 11:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ntron1 (Post 971277)
"they are offering to fix it(stud welder, slide hammer, bondo, and try to paint match it)" Does not instill confidence for me. "try" to paint match? Your car your choice but I would not be playing lets make a deal with a "Stealership". YMMV :)
Well, that was my take on it, they have a body shop they work with I guess.

Wo6M 05-30-2013 11:10 PM
Do you have pictures?
Honestly they are owning to the mistake good job but you should discuss how the repair will be done. Atleast give them the opportunity to fix it themself before running to your insurer please.


Good luck.

Subie 05-30-2013 11:21 PM
Have them fix it. The 5AD kit is gross.

Wo6M 05-30-2013 11:22 PM
That part looks replaceable....

Cade01 05-30-2013 11:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wo6M (Post 971308)
Do you have pictures?
Honestly they are owning to the mistake good job but you should discuss how the repair will be done. At least give them the opportunity to fix it themselves before running to your insurer please.


Good luck.
Pictures are up top now.

I don't plan on going to my insurance, he did say that they would have to use a stud welder as they could get to it for paint less removal, with that comes bondo and they fact that the pearl white is hard to match.

Cade01 05-30-2013 11:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wo6M (Post 971330)
That part looks replaceable....
It's part of the uni-body, only replaceable if they cut and weld.

Cade01 05-30-2013 11:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Subie (Post 971325)
Have them fix it. The 5AD kit is gross.
I'm not a super fan of it but it's not bad, I'm trying to be ok with leaving it as they are offering to let order other items for compensation.

Wo6M 05-30-2013 11:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cade01 (Post 971333)
It's part of the uni-body, only replaceable if they cut and weld.
Ohh wow i didn't know that, :(
I bid you good luck sir.

|-Goku-| 05-30-2013 11:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cade01 (Post 971339)
I'm not a super fan of it but it's not bad, I'm trying to be ok with leaving it as they are offering to let order other items for compensation.
I personally would have them just fix it. I wouldn't cover it up. But that is just me, knowing that it is damaged underneath(even if I couldn't see it) would still bother me.

Cade01 05-30-2013 11:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by |-Goku-| (Post 971350)
I personally would have them just fix it. I wouldn't cover it up. But that is just me, knowing that it is damaged underneath(even if I couldn't see it) would still bother me.
I feel the same, but I like the idea of there being bondo on my car even less. Also, if they send it to the body shop don't they report it to CarFax?

|-Goku-| 05-30-2013 11:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cade01 (Post 971372)
I feel the same, but I like the idea of there being bondo on my car even less. Also, if they send it to the body shop don't they report it to CarFax?
Not necessarily, not all body shops report that, as its not required. When I had my FR-S, and asked them not to drill into my bumper for the License plate frame, they accidentally did it anyway, and I made them repair it. It wasn't reported on the car fax.

You can always ask them how they plan to repair it, and tell them you don't want a cheap repair(aka bondo). Tell them your concerns about having it repaired. It sounds like they are a good dealership and will do what they can to make it right.

Cade01 05-31-2013 01:20 AM
So, so far the consensus seems to be to fix it. I am certainly thinking about it, asking for a TRD intake and 5AD wing is tempting as well.

humfrz 05-31-2013 01:35 AM
Seems like a good PDR person could reach and fix it ....??

humfrz

SLEEPER WRX 05-31-2013 01:39 AM
I would leave it and live with it - it's not that bad

Get parts in return - intakes don't do that much - get a full exhaust system & rear diffuser

Cade01 05-31-2013 01:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 971624)
Seems like a good PDR person could reach and fix it ....??

humfrz
They had a PDR look at it, if you look in the pictures at where it is there are no holes they can get through, I would have been down with that. And it's creased.

Cade01 05-31-2013 01:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SLEEPER WRX (Post 971629)
I would leave it and live with it - it's not that bad

Get parts in return - intakes don't do that much - get a full exhaust system & rear diffuser
I already have a full Nameless Performance setup, the diffuser is a good idea though. I like the idea of the intake add to get rid of all that noise tube stuff and get a bit more flow.

SLEEPER WRX 05-31-2013 01:51 AM
OK then, have them cough up the TRD big brake kit, Stop Tech, or AP Racing !!!

Cade01 05-31-2013 01:53 AM
I think that's a bit excessive...

projek_01 05-31-2013 02:18 AM
Honestly, I would just make sure that there are no microscopic cracks in the paint where water can get in and cause rust and get them to put a kit on. Factory primer and galvanized steel will resist rust much better. By pulling the dent and filling with bondo, you are making that spot vulnerable to rust especially on the rocker panels. They will have to grind off the factory primer/galvanized coating when they make the repair.

Cade01 05-31-2013 03:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by projek_01 (Post 971691)
Honestly, I would just make sure that there are no microscopic cracks in the paint where water can get in and cause rust and get them to put a kit on. Factory primer and galvanized steel will resist rust much better. By pulling the dent and filling with bondo, you are making that spot vulnerable to rust especially on the rocker panels. They will have to grind off the factory primer/galvanized coating when they make the repair.
I plan on making sure it's sealed, it doesn't appear to have made holes in the rock guard(that stuff it pretty pliable) unfortunately they are only offering side skirts, no front or rear(and only if I give them $175)

Cade01 06-04-2013 08:15 PM
So, heard back from the dealership today. I had told them I didn't want the side skirts because they would look horrible by themselves. I then made a counter offer of the TRD intake and the 5AD wing since it would be the same dollar amount as the skirts. I was told that since I didn't want the side skirts or for them to fix it they would only offer the intake OR the wing, not both, essentially cutting their offer in half. Anyone have any suggestions on how to take care of this? I'm almost to the point of using my insurance then having them reimburse them...

Cade01 06-04-2013 10:56 PM
Anyone?

GloriousJ 06-04-2013 11:58 PM
Find your answer by copy & paste the following code -> compile & execute.

String Think (String Dilemma)
{
if (YourBrain(Dilemma) > 9000) {
Think ("Take the offer");
} else
{
Think ("Don't take the offer");
}
return "I don't know";
}

void main()
{
Think("What should I do?");
}

Disclaimer: The above code can't guarantee any real answers because I don't know what goes on inside YourBrain()
WARNING: May cause your computer to run out of memory.

BlaineWasHere 06-05-2013 12:03 AM
If they are going to send it out to a body shop just make sure it's a reputable shop and let them. That's what I would do.

thill 06-05-2013 12:05 AM
Let hem fix it, and make sure I is done right.

Cade01 06-05-2013 01:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thill (Post 981999)
Let hem fix it, and make sure I is done right.
The only problem in this is you can't make sure it's done right when they send it to their "guy". I would have no say in where the repairs were done, no over site at all. I can't imagine it would go to a super reputable shop, especially when they are already cutting the offer amount in half.

Cade01 06-05-2013 01:10 PM
So I called the guy I was dealing with last night and left him a message stating I needed to speak with the service manager. This morning I got a call from the original guy not the service manager saying they would give me the wing and the intake, seems they didn't want me to talk to the manager. all in all I'm happy with the two items as the paint is intact (I also have a friend that does auto paint so he will touch up the clear for me) and there is a spot that I can get in and spray sealant inside the rocker. Now just to wait for them to get in.


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