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topazsparrow 07-18-2013 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightbringer (Post 1077510)

I'm pretty sure that one isn't even available to consumers. It's strictly a race team sort of deal.

BRAWL 10-06-2013 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sinigang_guy (Post 1023325)
the rumble is more pronounced, but the volumes are barely noticeably louder. thought id be happy with the uel manifold and stock catback only.. didnt last long at all. ended up getting a resonated perrin catback. so much better than i would have anticipated.

Bit of threadomancy but do you happen to have any video/audio of this setup? I have another thread asking for best options to go with the UEL header :)

12foot 06-20-2019 01:10 AM

Was leaning towards the headers, but that cold start is brutal...in a bad way:(

FRSBRZGT86FAN 06-20-2019 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 12foot (Post 3229212)
Was leaning towards the headers, but that cold start is brutal...in a bad way:(



Any catless header you get will sound like that on a stock tune and on cold start. You should, as you are supposed to, get a tune to make the proper amount of power and simply tune out that excessive cat warm up process on the stock tune.

86MLR 06-20-2019 07:00 AM

A ELH will not be as loud as a UEL header, even at cold start.

EL header is better in every way when it comes to performance though, except for marketing.

Opinions may vary

msaikhan 06-20-2019 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BRAWL (Post 949330)
Borla UEL headers with stock exhaust - YouTube

Had them installed yesterday by Peter at Exhaust World in North Perth who did a great job. I provided spacers for the O2 sensors (HELP 42009 spark plug non-foulers) which have (so far at least) stopped the CEL issue from having no cat.

The torque dip is more like a plateau now and seems to pull a lot better, but let's face it, the main reason for UEL is boxer rumble! :party0030:

Not sure on what to do for the rest of the exhaust but it is likely that it will be an Invidia Q300 and then a custom down and midpipe :)

i have borla UEL+ manzo overpipe+ stock front pipe +q300. Its super quiet.

why? 06-20-2019 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 12foot (Post 3229212)
Was leaning towards the headers, but that cold start is brutal...in a bad way:(

You can tune the cold start to turn off entirely. Also Borla seems to be one of the loudest headers out there.

deca 06-20-2019 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 12foot (Post 3229212)
Was leaning towards the headers, but that cold start is brutal...in a bad way:(

You'll never hear that with a tune, which you'll want in order to optimize header gains anyway. I ran the borla v2 with my stock exhaust for a month or so before getting a catback and I'd say it's a pretty mild change to sound overall. It's a little louder but if you weren't expecting or looking for it you might not even notice. The rumble is there if you're listening for it but it's very subdued.

Performance, on the other hand, is extremely noticeable. I'm on the Stage 2+ OFT tune and all I can say is that it is NOT overhyped.

Be careful if you start shopping catbacks after installing this header, you'll be amazed how much the stock system does to keep volume down and kill drone.

12foot 06-21-2019 12:32 AM

O.k, great info. Thanks.
I've put a bit of research into it, and never until now read the tune will solve the harshness during start-up. I drive a lot, love listening to the engine, and concluded Borla UEL, plus a tune is a good next step based on vids (but they all had other mods too). I am optimistic again.
I don't want to replace overpipe if not necessary, what is the advantage of that?

deca 06-21-2019 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 12foot (Post 3229608)
I don't want to replace overpipe if not necessary, what is the advantage of that?

I may be mistaken, but I don't believe there's much point to replacing the overpipe unless you want a 100% 3" system, which only really benefits FI applications.

It's possible an overpipe on an NA engine could be a bit more efficient or lighter than the stock piece, but I assume the differences would be extremely small and barely noticeable if at all.

I'm running a stock overpipe and frontpipe and the Tanabe Concept G catback.


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