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Cal3000 05-17-2013 11:19 PM

Is engine knock normal for the FA20?
 
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I logged some data while driving home. I have a tune. Apparently knock correction is occurring 5-8 time every 5 minutes while cruising. Is that normal? Doesn't seem good. I'm on 91 octane.

Allch Chcar 05-17-2013 11:44 PM

According to the manual, some is normal on 91 octane. Serious knocking would be audible (with the windows down).

Cal3000 05-18-2013 12:01 AM

Audible would be knock corrections under -3 degrees if I remember.

AVOturboworld 05-18-2013 12:07 AM

That's 91 octane for you.

Cal3000 05-18-2013 01:21 AM

I'll probably put the stock map back on tomorrow and see how that looks. As long as there is no engine damage, I'm ok with a little knock :D

StormTrooper 05-18-2013 01:18 PM

why can't we have decent gas in this country???

Mobius357 05-18-2013 05:55 PM

My car seems to run well on the 93 we have here. Use to have 94 too, but I haven't seen that for a while.

Tim_Asphalt_FRS 05-18-2013 07:57 PM

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why can't we have decent gas in this country???

Politicians.


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Visconti 05-18-2013 08:02 PM

Depends when it happens.. WOT old be a problem , but normal driving isn't such a big deal...these ecus have a advanced knock control system and normally can deal with this stuff pretty well
john

Cal3000 05-18-2013 09:08 PM

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Depends when it happens.. WOT old be a problem , but normal driving isn't such a big deal...these ecus have a advanced knock control system and normally can deal with this stuff pretty well
john

Thanks for letting me know this.
I slapped back on the stock map and still knocking. ECU resets itself after flashing right? All these graphs are from Shell 91 octane.

arghx7 05-19-2013 12:32 PM

You'd be surprised how many new engines run like this. It's not just an FA20 thing. It's to maximize gas mileage and sense the octane level.

A5D5TRYR 05-19-2013 01:12 PM

Yeah, I think it's the same reason the new direct injection high compression V6's in the new pony cars can run regular. Same with the Genesis 2.0T and I think the new Focus ST can run regular as well even though it's turboed.

Allch Chcar 05-19-2013 03:56 PM

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why can't we have decent gas in this country???

Premium unleaded is a tiny fraction of Gasoline use because it's significantly more expensive. Things have changed in the last 10 years, can you guess why?

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Dynotronics1 05-20-2013 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Cal3000 (Post 942879)
I logged some data while driving home. I have a tune. Apparently knock correction is occurring 5-8 time every 5 minutes while cruising. Is that normal? Doesn't seem good. I'm on 91 octane.

If it the calibration is set perfectly for your car and your fuel, then no they should be no KR. A 1.0 pull every once in a while on a 1 AM is fine, and will not cause any issues, but what your displaying looks like it needs a bit more work. I'm sure your tuner will finish it up, assuming you are sending logs


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