Let me get this right.

FRS/BRZ influence = light weight, reliable, cheap, cheap maintenance, good looking, easily drifted if needed be. This is the Recipe for

Affordable college, or high school grads, who have just started their life to dip into a good sport looking car, and still having fun while at it.

A more spirited Youth will even take this car to the track to drift, to have fun. The car totally serves this purpose.

But lets face the reality, the only fun thing on the street = Super Fast Ramping into the Highway, or Light to Light Drag. Has the FRS been able to do so ? Not so much.

You can Drift it in a track course, but how many of the owners will do so ? 5% ? How many of the owner will do Light to Light and Ramping to the High Way ? I can say more than 65%. These Majority are where the FRS needs to hit.

FRS needs to also target the people who want Affordable, Quick, Agile, Fun, Reliable driving on the street. That is where BRZ and FRS turbo need to step in.

Quick on the High Way Ramp. Quick on taking over lane, passing power. Quick from Light to Light. Super Agile in Drifting in a Track course, and can still be Cheap to Maintain.

Can you ask for more than FRS/BRZ 300HP 285 Torque at 3000 RPM ? Nah...because it serves it purpose much more than a C7 Vettee

To get current owners to part with their version and buy the latest version it will take more than simple accessories (think anniversary edition). The marketing model for most vehicles depends on a used market to support people who can't get loans and to continue to spread the brand reach of the vehicle. If we figure 30% of owners are already keeping the car as seasonal and it's not a supercar that cost enough to support the brand entirely on new sales, if they don't get us to part with our cars it'll quickly become the RX8 or S2000 and go extinct. Some may argue that the way the twins are stacked against each other (with the Subbie having some of the "upgraded options") that the Subbie is already the vehicle that will make you part with your FRS, but then what about the BRZ owners? I wouldn't be surprised to see an STi BRZ but no new FRS model.

All that said, I think it points to us seeing a turbo variation along with a new tire and wheel package. Any accessories like fog lights will still be accessories so that the base price stays low. Many owners have already done tire & wheels and intakes or exhaust so if the car came with that and cost a few dollars more, many would have still willingly paid it for more power. *2 cents*

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an7LP4GjWhg"]FRS and BRZ 0-60 MPH real life test review[/ame]

Look at this. 2 persons in a car supposedly Sport car.

Sport = Small, low, un-practical for having kids, hauling grocery, camping goods, whatever.....and running 10 seconds to 60MPH ?

This is reality, not the Hype. Anything sport run 0-60 MPH under 6 seconds = true sport

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxWWW3HB1kE"]RX350 Soccer Mom SUV[/ame]

This Soccer mom car is even better from 3 minute mark

2015 model = +5 hp and torque dip elimination with some slight change in design for the front bumper and taillights

If a sports car needs to be fast 0-60 to remain relevent and successful, explain the Miata.

In production for over 20 years and Mazda has sold over a million of them.

Slow as hell in a stoplight race.

-Justin

Fix the current electrical and mechanical problems.

Did you really just pick a review of the car running at mile high altitude with two fat guys in it, just to show that it runs 10 seconds to 60 mph?

:slap:

There are plenty of reviews of the car hitting low-mid 6's to 60.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPoZ1SC8uwk"]2013 Scion FR-S: A New Hope? - Ignition Episode 14 - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vujkms9ygzI"]Scion FR-S Video Review -- Edmunds.com - YouTube[/ame]

Hey, I compared on an equal term of 2 fat guys, same altitude between FRS vs RX350.

Same condition, and the winner is RX350. The fact, proved, tested, Non-Hyped up

The cake is a lie. They already ate it.

Not debating the "winner", but the test is pointless IMO. I'll agree with you here though: if you're looking to race stoplight to stoplight at high altitude with no launch and with a bunch of fat people stuffed in your car, you could not come up with a worse car than the FR-S.

How many fat people are in a bunch?

-Justin

So? Just face it, the car is what it is, the only point you are proving is how annoying you can be.

It isn't for everyone, only a fool would argue that it's the perfect sports car, it's just a really good one :thumbsup:

Haha however many can fit in the seats and trunk.

I totally agree with FRS being a very good car :) . I can tell you a secret. All of the Limited 10 series and all are very tempting.

I am holding off, waiting for the Turbo FRS. I see it, from all the Demands from people. I do see a Forced Induction system coming to FRS or BRZ.

I rather pick Super charged or Turbo-ed FRS BRZ 4 banger than picking a V6 Twin turbo....or a V6 Hybrid Sport car. Rumored of Supra coming back

One simple reason why : 4 Banger = The best to play around with, even if you are not mechanically incline