Originally Posted by Carwhisperer (Post 925221)

So this is the 2nd time within a month of going back to the dealership because of my Direct Injector Leaking. One has already been replaced last month and now my other one is leaking.

Car has 21k miles on it.

If anyone else hears a "firecracker popping sound" coming from your car under moderate acceleration, that's more than likely you're issue. Its not a pleasant sound.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...=injector+leak

Originally Posted by romin (Post 925762)

I have the same issue.
Went to Subaru dealership #2 today with the O rings in hand and they refused to acknowledge the issue.

Today's service advisor tried to blame the issue on my after market exhaust.
Really getting tired of these guys.
They have pictures of their rally cars hanging everywhere and pump their products at SEMA but the minute you purchase any of this stuff they blame every engine issue on your after market parts.

Originally Posted by SkullWorks (Post 927768)

I'm Confused (or someone else here is)

There are O-rings at the DI to rail interface, but at the head there is a teflon Band and a crush ring that is metal bonded to rubber.

now that that is all clear, what is leaking? the O-rings or the already known issue of the teflon band which is burried in the head at the end of the injector near the combustion chamber?

Please clarify. as these are severely separate issues, and as stated one is already a known issue. (well to those that know lol)

Originally Posted by peachch (Post 926081)

Do you know what cylinder start leaking first? In my case, I got CEL P301 around 15000mi. I replaced all spark plugs.

Popping sound came up after I brought my car to a track. It had 17,000mi on it. Then, I found out that 1st cylinder injector O-ring was missing and 3rd cylinder injector O ring does not look good. I replaced all O-rings and Insulators.


Have you brought the car to track after 1st time fix?

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=20930&page=2

I added oil cooler and run around 500mi. The issue has not reoccurred yet.

Originally Posted by romin (Post 928962)

Peachch,

First thanks for posting the initial photos of your missing injector rings.
It appears the lower teflon ring was completely missing from your injector.

Given this diagram:
http://bminor.smugmug.com/photos/i-B...-BX5qX2z-S.jpg

Is this the part that you found damaged or completely missing?
http://bminor.smugmug.com/photos/i-9...-9wRfM6Z-S.jpg

Did you replace it yourself?
Was it hard to get to or just like any other injector ring swap?
Pull the manifold, pull the fuel rail, pull the injectors?

Originally Posted by peachch (Post 937695)

1st cylinder O-Ring was completely missing. You need to remove intake manifold first. It was abit difficult to put the O-Ring in since it was very tight and I do not have SST. The rest is similar to other injector removal including teflon insulator replacing. Someone posted service manual here. You can follow the instruction. Unfortunately, I did not take any photo. I cannot put it in DIY section.

Originally Posted by track_warrior (Post 964063)

This was the cause of my engine failure. I really hope there is a recall for this as its dangerous and could cause complete engine failure like in my car. Im seriously considering parting out my car and selling.

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 964066)

So you went lean and boom?

Originally Posted by track_warrior (Post 964063)

This was the cause of my engine failure. I really hope there is a recall for this as its dangerous and could cause complete engine failure like in my car. Im seriously considering parting out my car and selling.

Originally Posted by whitefrs (Post 963293)

how hard was to remove the intake manifold?

so a newbie can do this?

do we really need the sst tool or no?

Originally Posted by Ozzman (Post 965735)

What is the SST?

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 965535)

Wasn't your engine covered, why part out?

Originally Posted by ae86stunt (Post 965953)

If this is a common occurrence. Fuel system related, will definitely become a recall.

(ASE tech, State Inspector)

Originally Posted by ToyotaTech805 (Post 972985)

I am a Toyota tech I just replaced these seals on a customer car. #1 Teflon seal was missing/burned off. I would recommend you use special service tool, seal does get stretched on installation special tool helps to install correctly.

Originally Posted by Carwhisperer (Post 976609)

June 1st.. A year ago. 99.9% sure I fall under, " badly needs a software update" to prevent this injector shenanigan business from happening a 3rd time.

Originally Posted by romin (Post 925762)

I have the same issue.
Went to Subaru dealership #2 today with the O rings in hand and they refused to acknowledge the issue.

Today's service advisor tried to blame the issue on my after market exhaust.
Really getting tired of these guys.
They have pictures of their rally cars hanging everywhere and pump their products at SEMA but the minute you purchase any of this stuff they blame every engine issue on your after market parts.

Originally Posted by track_warrior (Post 977383)

Could some one please add a poll to this thread?

1- My car has had an injector seal leak but no damage was done. Dealer Validated Warranty.

2- My car has had an injector seal leak but no damage was done. Dealer Denied Warranty.

3- My car has had an injector seal leak that caused engine damage. Dealer Denied Warranty.

4- My car has had an injector seal leak that caused engine damage. Dealer Validated Warranty.

Originally Posted by Marrk (Post 976833)

What's the relationship between software updates and injector seal failure?

Originally Posted by Carwhisperer (Post 977781)

For those who haven't seen this.