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-   -   Direct Injector Leaking (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36129)

Marrk 06-02-2013 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ToyotaTech805 (Post 972985)
I am a Toyota tech I just replaced these seals on a customer car. #1 Teflon seal was missing/burned off. I would recommend you use special service tool, seal does get stretched on installation special tool helps to install correctly.


How many FR-Ss does your dealership service? What percentage had this problem?

Rough estimate is fine.

FT_Monk 06-02-2013 12:57 PM
Normally how many cylinders have seal missing or burned off? If only a specific location has the problem then it is maybe some source of manufacturing defect; other wise this is worry some. This car has so many problems!

415FRS 06-02-2013 07:26 PM
So if my warranty is voided since I'm going to have my SC installed. Do they still fix my car if it is a recall ?

Marrk 06-02-2013 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Carwhisperer (Post 976609)
June 1st.. A year ago. 99.9% sure I fall under, " badly needs a software update" to prevent this injector shenanigan business from happening a 3rd time.


What's the relationship between software updates and injector seal failure?

Frozen_skidmark 06-02-2013 08:21 PM
Toyota seems to be a little better with the after sales and the warranty stuff. I was a little torn between the frs and brz... but I think it's going to be frs for sure. I wouldn't be surprised to see some asbestos seals come out for this even if they're after market. Can't use it in brake pads and such, but this would be a perfectly viable application.

lsxiong 06-03-2013 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by romin (Post 925762)
I have the same issue.
Went to Subaru dealership #2 today with the O rings in hand and they refused to acknowledge the issue.

Today's service advisor tried to blame the issue on my after market exhaust.
Really getting tired of these guys.
They have pictures of their rally cars hanging everywhere and pump their products at SEMA but the minute you purchase any of this stuff they blame every engine issue on your after market parts.
You put the exhaust on, so you should take it upon yourself to swapped the stock one back before getting your car serviced. I'm getting the TRD exhaust.

track_warrior 06-03-2013 01:33 AM
Could some one please add a poll to this thread?

1- My car has had an injector seal leak but no damage was done. Dealer Validated Warranty.

2- My car has had an injector seal leak but no damage was done. Dealer Denied Warranty.

3- My car has had an injector seal leak that caused engine damage. Dealer Denied Warranty.

4- My car has had an injector seal leak that caused engine damage. Dealer Validated Warranty.

Carwhisperer 06-03-2013 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by track_warrior (Post 977383)
Could some one please add a poll to this thread?

1- My car has had an injector seal leak but no damage was done. Dealer Validated Warranty.

2- My car has had an injector seal leak but no damage was done. Dealer Denied Warranty.

3- My car has had an injector seal leak that caused engine damage. Dealer Denied Warranty.

4- My car has had an injector seal leak that caused engine damage. Dealer Validated Warranty.
Just start a new one with a poll man. It'll get more attention.

Carwhisperer 06-03-2013 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Marrk (Post 976833)
What's the relationship between software updates and injector seal failure?
For those who haven't seen this.

Marrk 06-03-2013 11:38 AM
@Carwhisperer:

1) Thanks for Post #39.

2) Combustion/misfires above 5200 rpm caused the nylon collars to fail? Have I understood that correctly?

zc06_kisstherain 06-03-2013 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Carwhisperer (Post 977781)
For those who haven't seen this.

It's little funny on "note" in last pic.
it occured during track usage and unique aggressive driving style. lol
is there TSB for BRZ?

whtchocla7e 06-03-2013 12:14 PM
Any news on this TSB coming to North America?

andrew20195 06-03-2013 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Marrk (Post 977833)
2) Combustion/misfires above 5200 rpm caused the nylon collars to fail? Have I understood that correctly?
Not misfires, detonation. Also called spark knock, sounds like pinging from the engine. Most modern cars will have some light detonation from time to time, and it's considered normal. Any time you have detonation the cylinder pressures are higher than during normal combustion. Apparently this is blowing out the nylon seal.

wootwoot 06-03-2013 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by whtchocla7e (Post 977916)
Any news on this TSB coming to North America?
Not yet. I have emailed scion, Toyota, and the NHTSA. If you do the same, and demand we get the fix ASAP, it will happen much faster. Send an email or get on the phone today.


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