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msile 05-10-2013 01:21 PM

APR Brake Ducts
 
Thanks to FT86-SpeedFactory for dogging APR until they shipped it.

Easy install. Clips into stock location. It also has two bolts that need to have nuts installed from behind the wheel well.

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ATL BRZ 05-10-2013 02:20 PM

How are you planning on routing hoses from the ducts to a rotor backing plate to make them functional?

msile 05-10-2013 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 924865)
How are you planning on routing hoses from the ducts to a rotor backing plate to make them functional?

Pretty simple. Just like I did for my Z06
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ATL BRZ 05-10-2013 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by msile (Post 925093)
Pretty simple. Just like I did for my Z06

I meant how you were going to route the hoses specifically from the back of the ducts to the wheel wells.
I'm not aware of a way to do so from that location.

I originally considered the APR ducts but there wasn't an established method of routing hoses to make them functional. I decided to get the @Touge Factory brake cooling kit which puts the ducts in the bumper opening to properly route the hoses around the radiator and into the wheel wells via the front control arms; the hoses safely clearing the wheels at full opposite lock steering angles.

The APR ducts look great but routing hoses looks like a pain if not impossible, especially with the stock washer fluid tank in place. There is not enough room behind the ducts in front of the wheel well liners. Touge Factory actually tried to make it work when developing their kit but wasn't able to.

JDKane527 05-10-2013 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 925099)
I meant how you were going to route the hoses specifically from the back of the ducts to the wheel wells.
I'm not aware of a way to do so from that location.

You cut a hole in the liner and route it through.

ATL BRZ 05-10-2013 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JDKane527 (Post 925112)
You cut a hole in the liner and route it through.

And then have the hoses get scraped off by your tires at speed and/or while turning?

Hanakuso 05-10-2013 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 925124)
And then have the hoses get scraped off by your tires at speed and/or while turning?

It will never touch the tires if you route it right

ATL BRZ 05-10-2013 03:59 PM

OP, please keep us updated and post pics of your hose routing when you do it. I'm very interested to see your solution.

sonnydelight 05-10-2013 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 925147)
OP, please keep us updated and post pics of your hose routing when you do it. I'm very interested to see your solution.

:happy0180:

msile 05-10-2013 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 925147)
OP, please keep us updated and post pics of your hose routing when you do it. I'm very interested to see your solution.

Sorry. I misunderstood. Yes the routing will be a pain. I have a vortech kit, so my washer container is much smaller. Take a look at the Z06 pic. See the duct that the orange hose is connected to? In our case it has to be flush with the lining so that the wheel does not hit it. The duct hole has to end up in the middle of the tire so that the hose when bent will not interfere with the tire. I have couple of spare ducts that I am playing with. I cannot use the same diameter hose as I did in the Z06. I will have to go smaller.
So the idea is APR -> hose -> duct -> hose -> brake sheild

Touge Factory 05-10-2013 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hanakuso (Post 925143)
It will never touch the tires if you route it right

Please explain.

Most people that will be using a brake cooling kit will be running a much wider wheel and tire setup, which makes clearance between the wider tire and fender liner even smaller.
The only viable way of routing a hose to the rotor if using the fog light duct was to route the hose under the car and to the control arm. Not the safest or an efficient method to route the hose.
with a 18x9.5 +40 with 225/40/18 Advan Ad08, if you cut a hole in the front of the fender liner and try to route it inside of the fender well, one turn of the steering wheel will snag or rub on the hose.

Touge Factory 05-10-2013 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msile (Post 925264)
Sorry. I misunderstood. Yes the routing will be a pain. I have a vortech kit, so my washer container is much smaller. Take a look at the Z06 pic. See the duct that the orange hose is connected to? In our case it has to be flush with the lining so that the wheel does not hit it. The duct hole has to end up in the middle of the tire so that the hose when bent will not interfere with the tire. I have couple of spare ducts that I am playing with. I cannot use the same diameter hose as I did in the Z06. I will have to go smaller.
So the idea is APR -> hose -> duct -> hose -> brake sheild

I could see this working, if you can get the ducting to be thin enough to snake along the inner liner.
We also tried mocking up an older piece we had for our evo and even at 1.5" thick with 245 tires - we couldn't go more then about a full turn on our steering wheels before making contact.

FT-86 SpeedFactory 05-10-2013 08:17 PM

I don't think our hounding did anything to speed up the process....but they did turn out fantastic.

Those look great!

Thanks Raj!
-Yo

Touge Factory 05-13-2013 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FT-86 SpeedFactory (Post 925748)
I don't think our hounding did anything to speed up the process....but they did turn out fantastic.

Those look great!

Thanks Raj!
-Yo

No hounding here.
Just offering our experience with what we tried.


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