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FRSpdDmn 04-25-2012 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pcasso87 (Post 191033)
9-Debating on suspension i have to drive it first.
Once you put race tires on it, the suspension will feel very soft for a track/race car. Especially with the stiffened chassis (via cage). You're going to need to up your spring rates, go with adjustable shocks (probably double-adjustable coil-overs) and then the tuning begins. And I don't mean "tuning" as in "adding parts". I mean "tuning" as in adjusting those added parts so that they actually make you go faster.

ButtDyno 05-04-2012 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryephile (Post 128593)
I definitely recommend upping the ante with the coilovers. The JIC's aren't very good. If you really want to knock it out [wallet too] JRZ or Moton are the uber brands. With any luck Nitron will bring an offering to the FR-S/BRZ, but we'll have to wait and see; they don't rush to market usually. KW will be the quickest to market and they're great for the money.
Just to pile on, JIC is awful.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...3&postcount=29

No one should do business with them, ever, for any reason.

Especially when there are much closer and much better options. I'm on Motons at the moment but if I could do it again I'd get JRZs so that I could get local rebuilds...

YMMV :)

Racecomp Engineering 05-07-2012 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ButtDyno (Post 199820)
Just to pile on, JIC is awful.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...3&postcount=29

No one should do business with them, ever, for any reason.

Especially when there are much closer and much better options. I'm on Motons at the moment but if I could do it again I'd get JRZs so that I could get local rebuilds...

YMMV :)
BD,

Are you getting a BRZ or FRS?

- andrew

kanundrum 05-07-2012 06:04 PM
I had custom JIC's (made for my car) and they were pretty great in terms of ride and track use.

Bit expensive though and yes customer service is meh.

ButtDyno 05-07-2012 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering (Post 203430)
BD,

Are you getting a BRZ or FRS?

- andrew
It's on the list of potentials. Focus ST is in the lead, and the BRZ arguably makes less sense than my E36, but, yet, here I am :lol:

edit: as a DD. Not to replace the Evo.

kanundrum: I suspect if you were happy with JICs for track you would have been just as happy with BC Racing, K2, D-sport, etc. I'll stop ranting now...

kanundrum 05-07-2012 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ButtDyno (Post 203576)
It's on the list of potentials. Focus ST is in the lead, and the BRZ arguably makes less sense than my E36, but, yet, here I am :lol:

edit: as a DD. Not to replace the Evo.

kanundrum: I suspect if you were happy with JICs for track you would have been just as happy with BC Racing, K2, D-sport, etc. I'll stop ranting now...

if you say they were that bad then maybe I had a different scenario or my situation was different as well but I thought they were excellent. I don't doubt they had issues but I had none of them in terms of the product anyway.

Never the less they will not be going on the FRS.

Racecomp Engineering 05-07-2012 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ButtDyno (Post 203576)
It's on the list of potentials. Focus ST is in the lead, and the BRZ arguably makes less sense than my E36, but, yet, here I am :lol:

edit: as a DD. Not to replace the Evo.

kanundrum: I suspect if you were happy with JICs for track you would have been just as happy with BC Racing, K2, D-sport, etc. I'll stop ranting now...
Actually I was thinking about the Focus ST too even though it's such a different car. It was just a question of how much utility I want/need. After driving this car though, it doesn't matter...I'm going for it.

NESW20 05-08-2012 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 190350)
If I had the disposable income, I'd buy two of these cars: An FR-S for track duty, and a BRZ Limited for street. I learned the hard way that race parts are for race cars, not street cars. My MR2 went from a fun street car to an almost-race car and is no longer fun on the street. As such I'll probably turn it into a full track car and keep the BRZ street friendly. I won't cry if I accidentally stuff my 25-yr-old Toyota into a tire barrier, whereas I might if I did it in my brand new Subaru that I need to get me to work the following day...

Any word on a Spec-86 series in the States? I guess it could take a while; they only just announced a spec racing series for the 350Z this year. I think it would be a lot of fun for people with the budget - something different than Spec Miata, and a little higher skill than the B Spec series (Mazda 2, Fiesta, Fit).
i guess i feel totally different about my MR2 than you do about yours. i'd be gutted if i smashed it into a wall because they're getting harder and harder to come by, especially clean ones. at the same time, the monetary loss from smashing up an FRS would be larger...

does anyone know much about track day insurance? i witnessed a GT3RS get loose and smash the entire left side of the car into some armco and the driver didn't seem too upset about it. i can only assume he either had more money than we gave him credit for, or he had some kind of track day insurance.

Turbowned 05-08-2012 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by NESW20 (Post 203824)
i guess i feel totally different about my MR2 than you do about yours. i'd be gutted if i smashed it into a wall because they're getting harder and harder to come by, especially clean ones. at the same time, the monetary loss from smashing up an FRS would be larger...

does anyone know much about track day insurance? i witnessed a GT3RS get loose and smash the entire left side of the car into some armco and the driver didn't seem too upset about it. i can only assume he either had more money than we gave him credit for, or he had some kind of track day insurance.
I'm not saying I'd be thrilled it were to happen, but I have a shed full of red MR2 body panels waiting to get swapped over if need be.

http://ontrackinsurance.com/index.aspx

The internet is your friend!

NESW20 05-08-2012 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 204111)
I'm not saying I'd be thrilled it were to happen, but I have a shed full of red MR2 body panels waiting to get swapped over if need be.

http://ontrackinsurance.com/index.aspx

The internet is your friend!
what is this "internment" of which you speak???? :eyebulge:

looks like a pretty good deal. does anyone have any experience with that sort of insurance? it would drive the cost of track days up a little bit, but if i were running at a "dangerous" track, seems like it would be worth it...

and i understand what you mean. i guess the way i look at it isn't so much the monetary value of the car, but more how replaceable it is. call me sentimental. :)

Turbowned 05-09-2012 12:39 PM
SW20's are rarer than AW11's, too. I know it wouldn't be easy to find a replacement AW11 hardtop, but just the same, if I had to repair or replace anything it wouldn't be the end of the world. I've had 7 MR2's since 2005; the only ones I would've been upset about crashing would've been the '89 Ice Blue Pearl Supercharged and the '94 Super Red II Turbo, because they're extremely rare in the U.S. What I wouldn't give to have either one of those back in my garage!!

Dark_Angle 05-09-2012 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by kanundrum (Post 128016)
Is anyone buying this car or well putting a deposit on this car with the following in Mind?

-Not A Daily Driver
-Track Only
-Interior will get gutted in about 2 hours from delivery
-Roll Cage installed within 1 week of delivery?
-Turbo Kit within a few weeks

These are just my goals just wondering if anyone else is doing it this properly as the car is meant to be treated!
Can I get a loan from the bank of kanundrum.:thumbup:

Dark_Angle 05-09-2012 12:50 PM
I will have about 20k in my 91 mr2 build and it will handle like this car and have 450hp to the wheel with plenty of room to go higher. I just want to keep it street friendly for now. This is why the fr-s will be my daily. Believe me though when I say it will see its fair share of track time.

kanundrum 05-09-2012 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Dark_Angle (Post 205400)
Can I get a loan from the bank of kanundrum.:thumbup:
haha I gotta sell a few organs but hey thats less weight in the car!

aesthetect 05-09-2012 08:13 PM
interesting the lack of emphasis on increasing power output in here as its my main hang up with the BRZ as a track toy, expecting to not be able to get much more out of the FA without forced induction

kanundrum 05-09-2012 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by aesthetect (Post 206077)
interesting the lack of emphasis on increasing power output in here as its my main hang up with the BRZ as a track toy, expecting to not be able to get much more out of the FA without forced induction

I am not worried about that, It will come very easily with all the manufactures. I think it will be just like tC wait 1 year and full mass production of power kits, intake exhausts etc.

aesthetect 05-10-2012 05:55 AM
i just mean, as a person running a naturally aspirated boxer, im wary of how much power output can be improved regardless of part availability. id even imagine switching cam profiles to be a chore given teh direct injection fuel programming

Curves 10-02-2012 11:56 AM
How's this project coming along?


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