if the cost is too much you can back out and get your deposit back

Everybody wants to have the first one. They're just putting their name on a waiting list so they'll get first-dibs to place an order when the cars are visible to dealers' order systems. Yes it's strange. It's putting down a deposit not on a product but on a chance to order a product. That distant sound you hear is the buzz.

This is no Ferrari. Those guys buy the car no-matter-what and sell them for a profit a year later.

So far my dealership has not talked about money. Probably because they can't take my order yet and don't want to give me the wrong expectation. We will cross that bridge when it comes.

Pure Pricing by design allows dealers to set whatever price they want. It's right there in black and white in the Pure Pricing policy.

Right. Let's not confuse Pure Pricing for "no mark-up." Pure Pricing just eliminates the negotiating process (which some folks, like myself, prefer to avoid). It's still a money-maker for the dealer...

In my opinion the only vehicle here that is remotely comparable in your list to the FR-S is the MX-5. The RX8 is a rotary and heavier (no! I am not saying there is any thing wrong with an RX-8, just not comparable), the Hyundai is a barge at 1,530 kg for the 3.8 Manual. WRX? If you are considering a WRX you have totally missed the point of the FR-S.

I am quite content to purchase this car based on the reviews I have read. The car does not have to be perfect for me to enjoy driving it.

Regards,

It seems that I caused a bit of a stir and people had fun dissecting the short list that I threw out there, but those people are missing the point entirely. I wasn't trying to list specific cars that I thought were better than the FRS, I was just throwing out a few sporty cars that are priced around the estimated FRS price.

If you have $28k to spend on a sports car you owe it to yourself to test drive every sports car in that price range. I feel like there is a 90% chance that I am going to end up getting a FRS or BRZ this spring, but I'm sure as hell going to drive everything else before I give any dealership my money. Who knows, maybe I'll surprise myself end end up getting an MX-5 or something instead? Life has a way of surprising you like that. Committing to a FRS or BRZ before you even get behind the wheel of one is just being a fanboy. I'm sorry, but you have to be pretty stupid to buy a car simply because of automaker hype and positive magazine reviews. Get out there and test drive this thing first, people!

It sounds like the small down-payment that most are putting on this car is refundable, and people are planning on checking everything out before actually buying the car. I don't see much harm in it if there is no real commitment, so I'm relieved to hear that. :w00t:

So if these cars aren't better why would someone consider them?

So you just called me stupid did you?
In my opinion (did you read that? "MY" not yours, mine) everything I have read about this car ticks all the boxes for me. There is NO other car, at this price point, that meets MY requirements.

Also, keep in mind the demand will be extremely high for these cars. Rumor has it, each dealership is only going to get 1-2 BRZs a month. I've been shopping for a new car since last spring; test driving, researching yadaydaydaa but I put a deposit down to insure the BRZ is an option. If you want a BRZ, that 90% chance you referred to is more like 10% without a spot in the line.

I'm sure as hell you're not going to get to drive a BRZ/FR-S this spring. Cause everything dealers get will go to people who put down a deposit, and I'm almost certain they won't let anyone else test-drive those.

Dsgerbc, fancy meeting you here :D bikerbob951.

If you are 90% sure you are getting a BRZ/FRS then you should go put down a deposit ASAP. There are only going to be a limited number of these things, so for 5-6 months after launch you will not be able to buy one without a long wait. If you want to get it in the spring, you'll need to be on the preorder list. I don't see the downside because you can still test drive it and if you decide you don't want it you get your $500 back. If you don't get on a list soon I don't think you'll be able to get near one until fall at least.

Oh, hai! lol.

I'm not sure how Scion's pure pricing works, but I doubt dealerships would set it above the MSRP price. There are at least 3 Toyota/Scion Dealerships 25mile radius of my house.

Rant on....

:mad0260:Why are people still comparing the MX-5 to the FR-S? The MX-5 is a 2 seat smallest roadster! Nothing like the FR-S. Actually there is nothing like the FR-S but the BRZ. And why would anybody buy the current MX-5 when a brand new design is coming in 2013? Same thing with the WRX. New hopefully better design next year. Sure they can screw them up, but I doubt it. They will have more power and lighter weight....maybe..

The RX8 has been discontinued, nobody wants that car anymore. Mazda just needs to fix the rotary problems and come out with a twin turbo RX7 or get into the game and come out with a FR-S competitor. I always forget than Mazda knows how to make a real sports car. Just make a coupe off of the new upcoming MX-5 chassis.

People only looking at the Genesis coupe because of the similar pricing...but damn that car is big compared to the FRS\BRZ. It's almost camaro size! Hyundai will fix this in the next generation of the Genny Coupe.

Rant off...

Glad y'all laying down some deposits...