Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB

Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/index.php)
-   Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=72)
-   -   HELP! WRONG GAS IN CAR (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35641)

CamryDS 05-06-2013 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fistpoint (Post 915149)
I told the service manager about the fuel requirement and he replied that they put 87 in ALL their cars, regardless of make or model.

I turned around and pointed to the Porsche 911 Turbo and Lexus LFA sitting 30 feet behind me...he replied: "those are the owners cars". I then replied: "and I bet you my new car he put the correct gas in them...".

Yeah my dealer did the same thing, I ignored their phone calls and their replies. They got their money. My 1st 200+ miles the car was running on regular. Last 2 fill ups were on Premium.

nabil_frs 05-06-2013 10:08 PM

wrong gas
 
well the day of i filled it up with 91 and added a octane booster drove around for a while and the pinging noise went away and all seems normal lol
thanks all! :thanks:

SliverBrz 05-06-2013 10:22 PM

dude dealership puts 87 all day.

They can care less.

sierra 05-06-2013 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HunterGreene (Post 914268)
First part is right, your second statement is completely wrong. There have been numerous users on here who have had 87 in their initial tank from the dealer that have not shown any long-term effect. A single tank of 87 will not void your warranty, nor cause catastrophic engine damage.

I didn't say one tank would destroy the engine but it certainly wouldn't be good for it and continued use would almost certainly dramatically reduce the life of the engine.
If you took the car in for an engine warranty claim and they found it filled with 87 octane, even if it was the first tank of 87 octane, do you think they would honour the warranty claim?

sierra 05-06-2013 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7thgear (Post 914427)
Thanks, Cpt.Leaflet-Reader, but it's clear you haven't a clue how petrole engines work, particularly the electronics that control fuel and spark.

thanks for dropping by.

Here's the post.

Hey guys so my dad accidentally put 87 instead of the premium 91 he only put 20$ so about 16L but i noticed a pinging noise more then usual and i asked him and he realized he put the wrong gas in the tanks half empty now but WHAT DO I DO!!!! HELPPPPPPPP

The engine was already knocking with the 91 octane because he noticed 'a pinging noise more than usual', so clearly 91 isn't up to the job for this engine. That's why they say to use 93 or higher.

I run mine on 98RON[US93] and have never heard any pinging[knocking].

Rayme 05-06-2013 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sierra (Post 915626)
Here's the post.

Hey guys so my dad accidentally put 87 instead of the premium 91 he only put 20$ so about 16L but i noticed a pinging noise more then usual and i asked him and he realized he put the wrong gas in the tanks half empty now but WHAT DO I DO!!!! HELPPPPPPPP

The engine was already knocking with the 91 octane because he noticed 'a pinging noise more than usual', so clearly 91 isn't up to the job for this engine. That's why they say to use 93 or higher.

I run mine on 98RON[US93] and have never heard any pinging[knocking].

He's probably hearing the direct injection knock, it's crazy loud at low RPM under load. I highly doubt the engine can ping itself to the point of damage with the knock sensors, timing adjustment(cam and ignition) and multiple fuel maps.

JDMenrique 05-06-2013 11:20 PM

Other than unlocking a shit storm of sarcasm, you'll be fine.

7thgear 05-06-2013 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sierra (Post 915626)
Here's the post.


The engine was already knocking with the 91 octane because he noticed 'a pinging noise more than usual', so clearly 91 isn't up to the job for this engine. That's why they say to use 93 or higher.

I run mine on 98RON[US93] and have never heard any pinging[knocking].


go away

#87 05-06-2013 11:24 PM

FWIW I know someone who runs a premium required vehicle on only regular 87 gas and they haven't had any problems over 5 years now.

Chill

sierra 05-06-2013 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #87 (Post 915710)
FWIW I know someone who runs a premium required vehicle on only regular 87 gas and they haven't had any problems over 5 years now.

Chill

What car was it?
I bet it wasn't producing 100bhp per litre.

It's strange that many people spend a lot of money on this car to increase the performance yet some are defending using cheap fuel as being of no consequence to the performance or longevity of the engine..

I agree half a tank of el cheapo isn't the end of the world as long as it's driven carefully until it's diluted out but long term this car needs 93+ If you can't get that it might not be the right car for you?

JDMenrique 05-06-2013 11:56 PM

At the end of the day its like an extra $4 a fill up. Not a bad investment to keep things in order

Xdragonxb0i 05-07-2013 12:34 AM

I would freak out if I put 91 in my car. 93+ only if available.

But the other are right. I would just fuel it up with octane booster and 91+ you car should be fine

7thgear 05-07-2013 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xdragonxb0i (Post 915898)
I would freak out if I put 91 in my car. 93+ only if available.

But the other are right. I would just fuel it up with octane booster and 91+ you car should be fine

octane rating is relative

here in Ontario, Shell 91 (no ethanol) is arguably better than the only 94 alternative from Petro Can (10% ethanol), and is a reason why people are getting the engine chirp.

therefore 91 is the default gas for us

firl21 05-07-2013 01:13 AM

Octane rating is the resistance to combustion.
The 93 is more resistant to combustion than 89. (this is only relevant in the compression stroke.)
The reason this car is suposed to have 93 is because the engine will run a tad hotter than your average econobox.
Just make sure you dont run the engine hard and keep rpm;s low. The cooler you run the engine the less likely you will cause knock.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:20 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.


Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.