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bdanisi 04-30-2013 06:06 PM

Question about our cars rolling speed
 
Everyday I browse this forum I feel like I read about a hundred this car is so slow threads. Now I'm assuming most of the people who are posting are complaining about the sluggishness of this cars 0-60 (which if you bought this car for that just lol) but I was wondering how people felt about this cars rolling speed. I find that if I'm in the right rpm range when I'm cruising I feel pretty confident about how quick this car is. To be perfectly honest if someone tries something silly and I'm above the torque dip it's usually no contest. Am I wrong here or do most of you feel that way too? Sorry if there's a bunch of typos I'm on my phone eating a lunch.

tmcmullins 04-30-2013 06:10 PM

I feel the same way. 4th is a BEAST on the freeway.

ChristosG 04-30-2013 06:11 PM

It does a good job of maintaining momentum. I keep reading about how aerodynamic it is with such a low drag coefficient which would help at higher speeds for sure.

Skywgn1 04-30-2013 06:11 PM

It can be a little surprising. The fact that this car does way pretty much nothing helps quite a bit. Was on the interstate when a late 90's z28 passed me followed behind a new mustang. I went to 5th and caught up and passed the mustang and was able to keep pace with the z28. Redlined 5th and shifted to sixth. Looked down and saw 128mph and decided to let him go. When you are actually driving the car it is a lot of fun. If you want a car to race from light to light buy something else because that is not driving.

fatoni 04-30-2013 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ChristosG (Post 902164)
It does a good job of maintaining momentum. I keep reading about how aerodynamic it is with such a low drag coefficient which would help at higher speeds for sure.

its not really that low. i think its just a marketing thing. econo cars are designed with low cd in mind. sports cars usually have higher figures because they generate downforce. the cd of this car is similar to that of the mazda3 and almost as low as a lexus ls430. my guess would be that its geared appropriately for the amount of tq the car has.

Splat 04-30-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bdanisi (Post 902147)
Everyday I browse this forum I feel like I read about a hundred this car is so slow threads. Now I'm assuming most of the people who are posting are complaining about the sluggishness of this cars 0-60 (which if you bought this car for that just lol) but I was wondering how people felt about this cars rolling speed. I find that if I'm in the right rpm range when I'm cruising I feel pretty confident about how quick this car is. To be perfectly honest if someone tries something silly and I'm above the torque dip it's usually no contest. Am I wrong here or do most of you feel that way too? Sorry if there's a bunch of typos I'm on my phone eating a lunch.

Above the torque dip, is where I always run. Unless wife is in car. It is just pure fun.
True story, no lie, a sport motorcycle, above torque dip starting somewhere around 50-60mph, we hammered it, he never passed me, last check saw 123mph. His defense it was little gusty and I am sure scary on a bike.
So I find myself wondering, do I really need that twin screw supercharger....

Whitigir 04-30-2013 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by fatoni (Post 902181)
its not really that low. i think its just a marketing thing. econo cars are designed with low cd in mind. sports cars usually have higher figures because they generate downforce. the cd of this car is similar to that of the mazda3 and almost as low as a lexus ls430. my guess would be that its geared appropriately for the amount of tq the car has.

This ! and the car also has a peak Torque at a Specific RPM range.

151 Torque at 6400 RPM. Also 80% of that is available at 3500. which is only 120 at 3400+.

To actually Enjoy the car for what it is, you will have to be always in the range of 6400-7500 RPM.

Torque is what Move your car up to speed. HP is what determine Max Speed.

Chef 04-30-2013 06:58 PM

This being my first sports car, I think it is quick enough for me. If your in the right gear it seems to do ok. I didn't really buy this car for speed. If i wanted to go faster I would've gotten a WRX or something.

forzajuve 04-30-2013 07:02 PM

The FRS and BRZ have quite a good drag coefficient, which competes with high-end cars like Porsche, for example, which many might not expect. :thumbsup:

The drag coefficient is used to quantify the drag or resistance of an object in a fluid environment such as air or water. A lower drag coefficient indicates the object will have less aerodynamic drag. The drag coefficient is always associated with a particular surface area."

Examples:
FRS drag coefficient = 0.27

Koenigsegg Agera (R) = 0.33 to 0.37
Mercedes-Benz CLA-Class = 0.23
Audi A4 = 0.29
Nissan GT-R = 0.26
Pagani Huayra= 0.31
Porsche 911 GT2= 0.32

mike_ekim1024 04-30-2013 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Splat (Post 902261)
Above the torque dip, is where I always run. Unless wife is in car. It is just pure fun.
True story, no lie, a sport motorcycle, above torque dip starting somewhere around 50-60mph, we hammered it, he never passed me, last check saw 123mph. His defense it was little gusty and I am sure scary on a bike.
So I find myself wondering, do I really need that twin screw supercharger....

Same, I keep it just above 4.5K rpm if I need torque. Worst this is holding it at 3K then gassing it - with my Takeda intake it just makes a bwaaaa sound with no power. I do wish it wasn't such a dip.

SkullWorks 04-30-2013 07:43 PM

LOL at the sport bike comment...he didn't know you were racing I assure you .

or it was a ninja 250 or similar.

shyong 04-30-2013 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Splat (Post 902261)
Above the torque dip, is where I always run. Unless wife is in car. It is just pure fun.
True story, no lie, a sport motorcycle, above torque dip starting somewhere around 50-60mph, we hammered it, he never passed me, last check saw 123mph. His defense it was little gusty and I am sure scary on a bike.
So I find myself wondering, do I really need that twin screw supercharger....


No way in hell you'll even come close to hanging with a supersport type bike (600cc). No way, no how. Must've been a Ninja 250 or something similar with a really shitty rider. Trust me. I've been riding for over 15 years. Most motorcycles would flat out put this car to shame when acceleration is a contest. Let's not kid ourselves.

TylerLieberman 04-30-2013 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by shyong (Post 902434)
No way in hell you'll even come close to hanging with a supersport type bike (600cc). No way, no how. Must've been a Ninja 250 or something similar with a really shitty rider. Trust me. I've been riding for over 15 years. Most motorcycles would flat out put this car to shame when acceleration is a contest. Let's not kid ourselves.



This. When I had my 250 a few years back, I looked to see how fast it could get to 60. Fastest time I ever saw was done by GPS and was right at 6 seconds. They only get to like 115 or so too.

Most modern sport bikes, even with amateur riders, can easily get sub 5 seconds 0-60. I've seen as low as 3 seconds even though. For instance, I have a '12 zx6 and first gear tops out at 84mph. Top speed is around 170. The FRS will come nowhere close to supersports.

OICU812 04-30-2013 09:36 PM

I do not mind the power it has at moment, I 100% knew what I was getting into before purchasing the car. It amuses me the people who complain, IMO they should have just bought a different car? I plan on putting a supercharger on it, either when "Toyota makes one" or I am off warranty and honestly it is NO PANIC. :party0030:


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