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Jayvelliott 01-30-2012 01:08 PM

GT86 Confirmed Pricing
 
Hey Guys,

My first post yes i know but Ive been following this forums and its articles from the beginning about the GT86/BRZ/FRS...i typed in GT-86 in the news section of Google and came across this article posted 2 hours ago

http://www.emoneydaily.com/toyota-mo...rice/69823023/

It clearly states the price points..now im not sure if this data is coming from the Japanese price sheet we saw a few days ago on the forums or what but i thought this was an interesting find either way!

Cheers :happy0180:

borge12 01-30-2012 01:15 PM

Those prices are not for US models.

DommerEOD 01-30-2012 01:22 PM

Holy jesus and everything else that better not be for the states!

terrypm 01-30-2012 01:29 PM

Article says US models will be priced under $30,000.00.

tripjammer 01-30-2012 01:32 PM

:thumbdown:I know this is not USA pricing...but it does say in the article that pricing will be under $30k.

I hope we are not screwed, because the Scion FR-S as we have seen it is not worth $30k:thumbdown:...not even $25k...unless they are going to add in everything from the top model GT86.

I am still going with

$23K FR-S
$24K BRZ Premium
$26K BRZ Limited

DommerEOD 01-30-2012 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terrypm (Post 123585)
Article says US models will be priced under $30,000.00.


The big numbers scared me away from the article before i could finish:lol:

Jayvelliott 01-30-2012 01:35 PM

I think the BRZ seems to have a bit more quality fit and finish then scions but we will see either way i want every TRD part i can get on this sucka for less then 30k

Carwhisperer 01-30-2012 01:41 PM

well good news for me because im getting the GT-86 imported to the states. So atleast i know what i have to drop come summer.

Jayvelliott 01-30-2012 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tripjammer (Post 123588)
:thumbdown:I know this is not USA pricing...but it does say in the article that pricing will be under $30k.

I hope we are not screwed, because the Scion FR-S as we have seen it is not worth $30k:thumbdown:...not even $25k...unless they are going to add in everything from the top model GT86.

I am still going with

$23K FR-S
$24K BRZ Premium
$26K BRZ Limited

$23k FR-S

Sounds about right.....after the Yen price sheet came out i decided to do a little bit of research and most of the cars thats toyota sells in Japan after the USA conversion seems to be anywhere from 8k to 9k higher then the usa prices..these remained a constant factor as i looked at the gt86 yen pricing the japan version to the sienna mini van, camry, and XB so after you do the conversion i subtracted 8500 and then no matter what the trim level was the pricing fell at exactly or close to the corresponding USA trim level start price

Jayvelliott 01-30-2012 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carwhisperer (Post 123596)
well good news for me because im getting the GT-86 imported to the states. So atleast i know what i have to drop come summer.

really can you tell me why your doing that...not being sarcastic just asking

#87 01-30-2012 02:04 PM

under $30,000 makes me think its more than 25, no?

Argent6978 01-30-2012 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayvelliott (Post 123605)
really can you tell me why your doing that...not being sarcastic just asking

Why would you not!!?? :) If I could afford to, I'd import an 86 in a heartbeat... :sigh:

RRnold 01-30-2012 02:34 PM

I guess it's a good thing that it's going to be released as a Scion here in NA and Canada.

I agree with Trip, sub 25K for the FR-S.

Snoopyalien24 01-30-2012 02:48 PM

21k and 22k for sure.

Really, till we hear "Price will be $XX,XXX" not "Price will be under $30k" or "Estimated to be around" - is when we can start posting these things.

thanks for the input, but when we hear something for real from a reliable source, WE POST.

:thumbsup:

Carwhisperer 01-30-2012 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayvelliott (Post 123605)
really can you tell me why your doing that...not being sarcastic just asking

Few quick reasons. I only want this car in a right hand drive( which if this law passes in the comming years you wont be able to buy any imported car to the US:(). So off the bat. It pretty much limits it to the Gt-86. Which is fine with me because i prefer the toyota badge. ( i have no beef with scion at all). Dont want to go into details for the rest, but the GT-86 is just the better option for me when it comes to making it unique to me only.

Mitch 01-30-2012 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carwhisperer (Post 123654)
Few quick reasons. I only want this car in a right hand drive( which if this law passes in the comming years you wont be able to buy any imported car to the US:(). So off the bat. It pretty much limits it to the Gt-86. Which is fine with me because i prefer the toyota badge. ( i have no beef with scion at all). Dont want to go into details for the rest, but the GT-86 is just the better option for me when it comes to making it unique to me only.

How do you plan on getting Subaru to say, in writing on their letterhead, that the RHD model provides the same crash safety as the LHD? Even if it does, I don't think I've ever seen a manufacturer take on unnecessary liability like that.

http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/impo...ges/page2.html
Quote:

If the vehicle you are seeking to import is a RHD, even if there were a U.S.-certified left-hand version of that vehicle, it might not be considered "substantially similar" for import eligibility purposes. Our experience has shown that the safety performance of RHD vehicles is not necessarily the same as that of apparently similar left-hand drive vehicles offered for sale in this country. However, NHTSA will consider the vehicles "substantially similar" if the manufacturer advises the agency in writing, on the manufacturer’s letterhead (and not that of an authorized dealership or other such entity affiliated with the manufacturer) that the RHD vehicle would perform the same as the U.S.-certified left-hand drive vehicle in crash tests.

7thgear 01-30-2012 04:09 PM

#1 reason to not get RHD in north america

our traffic systems are designed around a heavy reliance on left-hand turns made during an active light.

by sitting on the right side you a) can't always see oncoming traffic while turning left b) in the event of an accident the chances of you being fucked go way up

Sabastian 01-30-2012 04:18 PM

Facepalm. This is the same converted-from-the-Yen pricing that we saw a couple weeks ago. Move along.

Zgrinch 01-30-2012 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabastian (Post 123695)
Facepalm. This is the same converted-from-the-Yen pricing that we saw a couple weeks ago. Move along.

+1.
I'm waiting for the "OFFiCIAL BRZ/FRS PRICING RELEASED" thread.

7thgear 01-30-2012 04:30 PM

I'm waiting for the smell of ink as the excited Scion salesman bends me over his desk, pressing my face against the purchase agreement knowing full well that i can't bargain with him on price one way or the other.

you don't know what you will pay until you pay it.

MSRP is MSRP and direct cost is direct cost

however much a single dealership will give you a deal depends on the dealership

then you got random shit like freight, delivery, and taxes, which are different from state to state to province (13% in Ontario!)

tripjammer 01-30-2012 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayvelliott (Post 123593)
I think the BRZ seems to have a bit more quality fit and finish then scions but we will see either way i want every TRD part i can get on this sucka for less then 30k


The quality of the interior and exterior is exactly the same between the Subaru BRZ, Scion FR-S and the Toyota GT-86. Why would they make two different dash boards?

The problem is a lot of the FR-S\BRZ we have seen were still pre-production units.

Even the dash board is the same in the BRZ premium vs the BRZ Limited. The difference is in the details like the leather in the door panels\knee pads center console which is on the limited but not the premium brz and scion FR-S. Plus the limited has the leather trim\Alcantara seats. The limited looks better inside because of that leather trim and the dual zone HVAC looks more classy.

Also look at a premium BRZ interior and it is exactly the same as the interior in the FR-S, except for the painted silver trim (BRZ) vs the fake carbon fibre trim (FR-S).

The BRZ has its navigation system, and the FR-S has it bespoke (word is still out if this is standard or not, but it is shown in the upcoming FR-S commercial.)

So for a BRZ premium vs the FR-S...it comes down to if you want HIDs with LED DRL's as standard vs the FR-S's cheaper looking halogen projectors.

Both cars are going to drive the same.

Oh and price. Hell we are all thinking that the FR-S is going to be the cheaper one of the two...we could all be wrong.

vaporiz 01-30-2012 06:00 PM

I'm 90%sure we saw a thread like this a week ago

miata 01-30-2012 06:07 PM

FRS will start below $26000.

xc 01-30-2012 06:23 PM

WHAT!!! THEY LOCK ALL MY POST ABOUT THIS AND THEY LET THIS ONE FLY? WTF

mines13 01-30-2012 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xc (Post 123782)
WHAT!!! THEY LOCK ALL MY POST ABOUT THIS AND THEY LET THIS ONE FLY? WTF

As ridiculous as your thread was, I have to agree with you.

Jayvelliott 01-30-2012 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tripjammer (Post 123728)
The quality of the interior and exterior is exactly the same between the Subaru BRZ, Scion FR-S and the Toyota GT-86. Why would they make two different dash boards?

The problem is a lot of the FR-S\BRZ we have seen were still pre-production units.

Even the dash board is the same in the BRZ premium vs the BRZ Limited. The difference is in the details like the leather in the door panels\knee pads center console which is on the limited but not the premium brz and scion FR-S. Plus the limited has the leather trim\Alcantara seats. The limited looks better inside because of that leather trim and the dual zone HVAC looks more classy.

Also look at a premium BRZ interior and it is exactly the same as the interior in the FR-S, except for the painted silver trim (BRZ) vs the fake carbon fibre trim (FR-S).

The BRZ has its navigation system, and the FR-S has it bespoke (word is still out if this is standard or not, but it is shown in the upcoming FR-S commercial.)

So for a BRZ premium vs the FR-S...it comes down to if you want HIDs with LED DRL's as standard vs the FR-S's cheaper looking halogen projectors.

Both cars are going to drive the same.

Oh and price. Hell we are all thinking that the FR-S is going to be the cheaper one of the two...we could all be wrong.


Trust me on this one TOYOTA has worse fit and finish then Subbie...to a customer you will not see the differences up front or right away after driving the car for 6 months you will start to see what i mean...working at a toyota dealership as a sales manager and shooting the shit with the mechanics in the back you learn all types of things

2fast4you 01-30-2012 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayvelliott (Post 123787)
Trust me on this one TOYOTA has worse fit and finish then Subbie...to a customer you will not see the differences up front or right away after driving the car for 6 months you will start to see what i mean...working at a toyota dealership as a sales manager and shooting the shit with the mechanics in the back you learn all types of things

And none of that matters considering Toyota isn't building this car.

And BTW 6 years later the fit & finish on my Toyota is still tight; no rattles and no buzzes.

Jayvelliott 01-30-2012 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mines13 (Post 123784)
As ridiculous as your thread was, I have to agree with you.

Hence why i rarely part take in forum conversation because of rules of having car conversation...we should start regulating what people talk about at car meets too then

kmbkk 01-30-2012 07:35 PM

I honestly don't think Toyota will release official pricing until April, coinciding with the New York International Auto Show, which is from 6-14 April. My guess is they'll announce it on the 7th. I hope I'm wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.

DIG1992 01-30-2012 08:33 PM

^ i was thinking the same thing maybe April since its the closest to may and june release date for both thr FRS and BRZ

fistpoint 01-30-2012 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #87 (Post 123621)
under $30,000 makes me think its more than 25, no?

Agreed, and more like $28k IMO. You know how American sales works: under $30k could easily mean $29,999 according to various consumer product advertisements here.

homero 01-30-2012 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carwhisperer (Post 123654)
Few quick reasons. I only want this car in a right hand drive( which if this law passes in the comming years you wont be able to buy any imported car to the US:(). So off the bat. It pretty much limits it to the Gt-86. Which is fine with me because i prefer the toyota badge. ( i have no beef with scion at all). Dont want to go into details for the rest, but the GT-86 is just the better option for me when it comes to making it unique to me only.

pics on the F50, or it didnt happen

xc 01-30-2012 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mines13 (Post 123784)
As ridiculous as your thread was, I have to agree with you.

thanks! and i learned my lesson :happy0180:

they should lock this one too! like now!

mine only lasted less than a day!!

LOCK LOCK this :sm3:

kmbkk 01-30-2012 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DIG1992 (Post 123853)
^ i was thinking the same thing maybe April since its the closest to may and june release date for both thr FRS and BRZ

I really hope I'm wrong, though. There's a good chane I'll be out of the country for a couple of months by then :(

ACHlLLES 01-30-2012 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xc (Post 123782)
WHAT!!! THEY LOCK ALL MY POST ABOUT THIS AND THEY LET THIS ONE FLY? WTF

I'd say ban stick.

tripjammer 01-31-2012 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmbkk (Post 123827)
I honestly don't think Toyota will release official pricing until April, coinciding with the New York International Auto Show, which is from 6-14 April. My guess is they'll announce it on the 7th. I hope I'm wrong but it wouldn't surprise me.

The price will be announce when the First 86 FR-S winners are able to place orders, which will be in late feb to early march. It will take 1.5 to 2 months to get the car after your order is placed. There was some dealer who said the first 86 FR-S were going to be delivered in April. I figure end of April, and first of June for the rest of us.

tripjammer 01-31-2012 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayvelliott (Post 123787)
Trust me on this one TOYOTA has worse fit and finish then Subbie...to a customer you will not see the differences up front or right away after driving the car for 6 months you will start to see what i mean...working at a toyota dealership as a sales manager and shooting the shit with the mechanics in the back you learn all types of things


All the cars will be built in the same Subaru plant. Quality will be the same on all of them. There is no difference but badges, front grills, side fender badges, and headlights. Even the interior is basically the same.

ACHlLLES 01-31-2012 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayvelliott (Post 123787)
Trust me on this one TOYOTA has worse fit and finish then Subbie...to a customer you will not see the differences up front or right away after driving the car for 6 months you will start to see what i mean...working at a toyota dealership as a sales manager and shooting the shit with the mechanics in the back you learn all types of things

I see you are really proud to be working at your dealership.


I've owned Toyota's since the 90's, and the chances are you are probably fixing your own dealerships mess.

Mitch 01-31-2012 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homero (Post 123866)
pics on the F50, or it didnt happen

There were only 349 made and this is an internet forum. I let this kind of stuff go, because it happens so often you'll have a stroke fighting each case.

Carwhisperer 01-31-2012 03:06 AM

Sure thing. Lets get way offtopic since theres nothing better to do on here now. You choose what you want me to be doing in front of the F50
A. Standing on my hands.
B. Picking my nose.
C. Smiling because i actually own a F50.


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