In my car, I only have 5 speeds, and R is down from 5, so, yeah, it's going to probably take me a little time to get used to R being up and left of 1! :)

^^Yup. It's the same on the new TC. I like the layout in this fashion

Except a proper E30 M3 or anything else with a dog-leg. Old but not forgotten! :happy0180:

damn thats opposite to rx8 :(
haha this is very normal btw. alot of cars have this with a lift lockout or a push down lockout even if they have 5 gears ;)

My Subarus are on the right and my truck is on the left...but my truck has the granny gear below reverse too ;)

Yup, Euro styled. I believe all the Toyota 6 speeds are like this now too.
Even some (or all?) Euro 5 speeds have the reverse next to first, unlike some japanese and american car 5speeds they put reverse where a 6th would be.

But what happens when you have a seventh gear like in the new porsches? (7 gears wtf?? lol).

It goes far right and up i think, next to 5th lol.

Used with my 5 speed gearbox, I tried to reverse in the 6th at a test drive (well, I figured out something was wrong before stopping the engine).
I can't help but wonder, what if someone would try the opposite - go to the "6th" at high speed?

I would assume its going to be like the WRX STi 6-speeds. Pull the ring collar up and shift it into reverse. You can see the ring collar right there on the shifter.

WRX STi shift stick.
http://www.bikes-n-spikes.org/sti/kn...ifter-knob.JPG

BMW does this. I have mistakenly put an M3 into reverse before because I thought the aftermarket shifter was just stiff when I was going for 1st. My G35 was next to 6th gear. My GTOs (and, if I'm not mistaken, all T56/TR6060s) are next to 5th gear.

saw the question and thought "he must be a honda guy"..lol

I noticed on the Scion site, the shifter in their picture does not have a ring collar, just boot to knob.

I wonder if there will be a difference between the two cars? If there can even be that is since its the same tranny..

Mazda 3 is like this... Very simple to operate, you will get used to it instantly

The one on the Scion site is an automatic. :P :)

Great, now I made myself look like a dumbass haha :clap: