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KevinK121 09-16-2015 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TMF (Post 2391911)
I used Race Chrono for logging with just the internal GPS, so take it somewhat with a grain of salt, but one of my more ballsy laps, I slowed down to about 104 for corner entry on T2, apexed around 102, and then hit 112 before my braking zone for T3 (I was braking at about the 3-3.5 marker). Granted this is is my stock power FRS with 225 bridgestones and TRD springs/sways/konis. I probably could have pushed it more, but I do prefer to stay on track lol.

Psht... overrated :D

KevinK121 09-16-2015 01:34 PM

Anyone know where I can get some ferodos cheap? So far brzparts.cm has them at 129.99 which is the lowest so far.

KevinK121 09-16-2015 01:35 PM

If anyone is selling some better rotors with good life left locally I'd be interested in that as well.

KevinK121 09-16-2015 01:58 PM

Jason, street light? How much does your car weigh?

(Just curious if you've dabbled in weight reduction. Im not complaining or trying to blow a whistle. You would be one less driver to have to beat ^_~ )

redlined600 09-16-2015 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ka-t_240 (Post 2391418)
Nice meeting you Redline! Great work, do you have any vids/data from your sessions?

This is Jon with DGM BRZ full of stickers, I was doing tech when you came thru.

Likewise.

I didn't record any video from the morning hpde, just data but here is a vid from my second fastest run. Completely blew turn 6 though.

https://youtu.be/QHSQkFtYhiU

Also the throttle and rpm feed flaked out partway through....I certainly didn't coast into 3.

ka-t_240 09-17-2015 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinK121 (Post 2392082)
Anyone know where I can get some ferodos cheap? So far brzparts.cm has them at 129.99 which is the lowest so far.



Ferodo Pads are expensive, no way to get them cheaper really. $129 actually seems cheap. If you want to save some money, look at HP+ I have them for my street pads. I have 6 hpde/15 autox days, and a bunch of street miles. Fronts are at about 1/3 rears still over 1/2. Have a second set of used ones for when I destroy these. ahah.



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Originally Posted by KevinK121 (Post 2392083)
If anyone is selling some better rotors with good life left locally I'd be interested in that as well.


Used rotors are a waste of money. Buy centric blanks off amazon.

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Originally Posted by KevinK121 (Post 2392107)
Jason, street light? How much does your car weigh?

(Just curious if you've dabbled in weight reduction. Im not complaining or trying to blow a whistle. You would be one less driver to have to beat ^_~ )



It would be pretty hard to get a FRZ into light, need at least 140-170lbs removed depending on the model, with no added weight from other items. Plus, he should likely read the rules to determine what class that car is actually in with all those fancy toys he has ;)

KevinK121 09-17-2015 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ka-t_240 (Post 2392990)
Ferodo Pads are expensive, no way to get them cheaper really. $129 actually seems cheap. If you want to save some money, look at HP+ I have them for my street pads. I have 6 hpde/15 autox days, and a bunch of street miles. Fronts are at about 1/3 rears still over 1/2. Have a second set of used ones for when I destroy these. ahah.



Ive read that their dust is corrosive and plenty. I initially planned on going with those but after reading that they make a ton of corrosive dust, scar your rotors, and dont last very long, the extra money for ferodos lasting longer and doing less damage while performing better seems to make the extra $20-$40 justifiable


Used rotors are a waste of money. Buy centric blanks off amazon.


Yeaaah good call. Are centric blanks really that much of an upgrade over stock? I was planning on doing at least slotted but I havent delved too far into this yet.


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TMF 09-17-2015 12:03 PM

Fyi, brake dust actually comes from the rotor, not the pad itself. More aggressive pads create more friction on the rotor and actually "flake" off metal from the rotor. More aggressive pad... More dust.

I'm running HP+ and I've run them on the last two cars. I definitely want to try some different brands of pads some time, just haven't had time to research.

Vic91 09-17-2015 03:39 PM

scion frs/subaru brz car group in minnesota
 
hi guys! do we have a car group or club here in minnesota?:party0030:

Gopherboy6956 09-17-2015 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TMF (Post 2393062)
Fyi, brake dust actually comes from the rotor, not the pad itself. More aggressive pads create more friction on the rotor and actually "flake" off metal from the rotor. More aggressive pad... More dust.

I'm running HP+ and I've run them on the last two cars. I definitely want to try some different brands of pads some time, just haven't had time to research.

I run Centric cryo treated blanks and carbotech xp10 front, xp8 rear. Stock calipers. My brakes FAR over power my ZIIss.

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KevinK121 09-17-2015 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Vic91 (Post 2393301)
hi guys! do we have a car group or club here in minnesota?:party0030:

Not really, no. I was debating starting a MN 86 group.

Actually, I think most of these folks are from the Dakotas too lol

Gopherboy
JDMNguyen
K-at

... All Dakota guys heh heh

TMF 09-17-2015 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinK121 (Post 2393316)
Not really, no. I was debating starting a MN 86 group.

Actually, I think most of these folks are from the Dakotas too lol

Gopherboy
JDMNguyen
K-at

... All Dakota guys heh heh

Check out MNSubaru.com...they have weekly Tuesday meets and there are a few BRZ/FRS guys that hang out too.

KevinK121 09-17-2015 05:30 PM

Im on the MNsubiez page on facebook. Ive been meaning to hop on the mn subarus. Hopefully better than MNHondas was lol

TMF 09-17-2015 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinK121 (Post 2393419)
Im on the MNsubiez page on facebook. Ive been meaning to hop on the mn subarus. Hopefully better than MNHondas was lol

MNSubiez on Facebook is a complete shi*t show if you ask me. It seems like every other post is, "I have this check engine light. What's wrong with my car? Is it ok to drive it?" Gets tiring.

I think the MNSubaru crowd is a hair more mature(?) and intelligent...just don't ask about stancing your car lol.

KevinK121 09-17-2015 06:59 PM

Yeah its actually a lot better than the usual fb car pages. Not saying much, I know.

Vic91 09-17-2015 09:11 PM

we should organize one!lets meet up!shoutout to all Minnesota 86 owners here!:happyanim:

jdnguyen 09-17-2015 09:53 PM

The Dakotas are better 😜


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KevinK121 09-17-2015 09:59 PM

Saw you changed your reg :p now I have to beat another 86 womp womp

KevinK121 09-17-2015 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Vic91 (Post 2393671)
we should organize one!lets meet up!shoutout to all Minnesota 86 owners here!:happyanim:

We can try to get something organized for next season :thumbsup:

KevinK121 09-18-2015 09:52 AM

And then there were three. Wanna give a ride along during the open lapping Faber? So I can copy your lines? Lol

ka-t_240 09-18-2015 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TMF (Post 2393434)
MNSubiez on Facebook is a complete shi*t show if you ask me. It seems like every other post is, "I have this check engine light. What's wrong with my car? Is it ok to drive it?" Gets tiring.

I think the MNSubaru crowd is a hair more mature(?) and intelligent...just don't ask about stancing your car lol.





My car idles funny, and i put gas out of a green hose yesterday.... why doesn't it work??

ka-t_240 09-18-2015 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinK121 (Post 2393316)
Not really, no. I was debating starting a MN 86 group.

Actually, I think most of these folks are from the Dakotas too lol

Gopherboy
JDMNguyen
K-at

... All Dakota guys heh heh



pfffff.... I got them MN plates

ka-t_240 09-18-2015 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinK121 (Post 2393050)
Noted in green



My street pads are HP+ I have 2 full sets. Not corrosive.


The currently have 11k on them, around 18 days of autox, and 7 HPDEs. Fronts are around 1/3 left and rears are over half.


Yes, they are dusty, but never had any issues with "rust" and the brake dust comes off pretty easy. I normally will clean the wheels off pretty good every couple weeks or after an event.




Now.... The Hawk DTC line... those are really dusty, and corrosive and if the dust gets wet... FML

KevinK121 09-18-2015 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ka-t_240 (Post 2394096)
pfffff.... I got them MN plates

Lol my bad. You're always racing all over the midwest. Hard to get an idea of where you park that thing haha

KevinK121 09-18-2015 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ka-t_240 (Post 2394103)
My street pads are HP+ I have 2 full sets. Not corrosive.


The currently have 11k on them, around 18 days of autox, and 7 HPDEs. Fronts are around 1/3 left and rears are over half.


Yes, they are dusty, but never had any issues with "rust" and the brake dust comes off pretty easy. I normally will clean the wheels off pretty good every couple weeks or after an event.




Now.... The Hawk DTC line... those are really dusty, and corrosive and if the dust gets wet... FML

Hmm good info.

jdnguyen 09-18-2015 01:19 PM

I'm going to be faster than Faber at DCTC because I cheat


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KevinK121 09-18-2015 01:59 PM

Then maybe I should be learning your lines lol

ka-t_240 09-18-2015 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinK121 (Post 2394251)
Hmm good info.


I like the HP+ better then the DS2500, thats what I ran in my STI. They were dusty and noisy, but slightly less than the HP+.


I have the DTC60s in my car for the time being.

ka-t_240 09-18-2015 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jdnguyen (Post 2394253)
I'm going to be faster than Faber at DCTC because I cheat


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Originally Posted by KevinK121 (Post 2394312)
Then maybe I should be learning your lines lol



He probably means by taking lines similar to that one lap you had near turn 2-3 ;)

jdnguyen 09-18-2015 04:05 PM

I'm just going to copy my gf's line


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redlined600 09-18-2015 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ka-t_240 (Post 2394467)
I like the HP+ better then the DS2500, thats what I ran in my STI. They were dusty and noisy, but slightly less than the HP+.


I have the DTC60s in my car for the time being.

I'll take the DTC-60s if you don't want them. I really can't believe you guys aren't fading HP+ pads.

Vic91 09-19-2015 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinK121 (Post 2394057)
And then there were three. Wanna give a ride along during the open lapping Faber? So I can copy your lines? Lol

actually we're four i have a friend with red scion lol

ka-t_240 09-21-2015 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Vic91 (Post 2395524)
actually we're four i have a friend with red scion lol

I think he meant signed up for MNTA Finale on the 3 part! Unless you signed up as well. lol

KevinK121 09-21-2015 09:57 AM

Yep. Still only 3 three signed up. I know Derek will be signing up too but I'm still surprised it's only 3. I'm sure the day before it'll be like 5 late sign ups.

jdnguyen 09-22-2015 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinK121 (Post 2396405)
Yep. Still only 3 three signed up. I know Derek will be signing up too but I'm still surprised it's only 3. I'm sure the day before it'll be like 5 late sign ups.


My co driver will be signed up too...


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KevinK121 09-22-2015 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jdnguyen (Post 2397618)
My co driver will be signed up too...


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What are they driving?

TMF 09-22-2015 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by redlined600 (Post 2394608)
I'll take the DTC-60s if you don't want them. I really can't believe you guys aren't fading HP+ pads.

The HP+'s used to fade on my STI up at BIR and in my limited experience in the FRS, braking hard into turn 13 after the standing start lap, the HP+ felt like they were fading a bit.

For autox, DCTC and similar, I think the HP+ is good. For full track like BIR, other big road courses, I think a higher temp pad is needed. But if you go too aggressive, you'll overpower "street" tires.

Another thing to be mindful of when you go to a more aggressive pad (not saying you're having this problem, just general info), is that you have to learn to brake later and use more of the brake. A friend of mine said he was running DTC-something and was over heating them at BIR because he was braking too early and not aggressive enough - thus longer pad to rotor contact, more heat, more fade. Later, more aggressive braking = less friction time, less heat. There is of course a happy medium.

TMF 09-22-2015 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinK121 (Post 2396405)
Yep. Still only 3 three signed up. I know Derek will be signing up too but I'm still surprised it's only 3. I'm sure the day before it'll be like 5 late sign ups.

I'm still trying to decide if I'll compete on the 10th...it's either compete, instruct/work the event, or go the Nordeast Big River Brew Festival. Too many options!

ka-t_240 09-22-2015 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinK121 (Post 2397655)
What are they driving?

Co-Driver = same car with a different driver ;)

KevinK121 09-22-2015 03:39 PM

I was wondering if thats what he meant. I was going to make a 'ringer' crack.


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