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Funky Fresh 04-15-2013 01:50 AM

Cusco vs Stance (Rear Control Arms)
 
Hi Guys,

Did some searching and I'm sure this is not a re-post but please correct me if I'm wrong.

I am looking at getting a Rear Control Arms for my car and just wanted to know what is the better out of the below two. If I'm going to spend the money for a Rear Control Arm, I want the best of the best.

My question is... what is your Control Arm of choice and why???

Please exclude price from this comparison. I want the comparison do be on the product itself eg; quality and functionality (price is not a factor).



Cusco - 692 474 L


http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/692474L.JPG

Stance - ST44

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/st44.JPG

ft_sjo 04-15-2013 02:01 AM

Out of those two, probably the Cusco. Look lighter and have better rose joints (with dust covers).

But all of these arms make me nervous with the shank diameter on those joints.

Accurate Race Shop 04-15-2013 02:13 AM

Also check out the agency power ones they seem to be the strongest and most well built ones to me.

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Funky Fresh 04-15-2013 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft_sjo (Post 865841)
Out of those two, probably the Cusco. Look lighter and have better rose joints (with dust covers).

But all of these arms make me nervous with the shank diameter on those joints.


Thanks for the feedback ft_sjo :)

I look forward to more opinions on this.

coyote 04-15-2013 02:17 AM

I have the Cuscos, but can see pros and cons to both.

Those stance units look beautifully made. Is that billet Aluminium? What do they weigh? The Cuscos are HEAVY!

Lovely looking spherical ends too. As posted above, no dust cover.

I can see why they'll changed the geometry for the fullee sik dropt too da weedz croo, but it will also decease available droop travel.

The Stance adjustment looks like it will sit just inside the sub-frame (like the Cusco). They are a bitch to adjust.

Do Stance offer those arms without the big geometry change? If so, I'd be tempted to try them.

Funky Fresh 04-15-2013 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coyote (Post 865864)
I have the Cuscos, but can see pros and cons to both.

Those stance units look beautifully made. Is that billet Aluminium? What do they weigh? The Cuscos are HEAVY!

Lovely looking spherical ends too. As posted above, no dust cover.

I can see why they'll changed the geometry for the fullee sik dropt too da weedz croo, but it will also decease available droop travel.

The Stance adjustment looks like it will sit just inside the sub-frame (like the Cusco). They are a bitch to adjust.

Do Stance offer those arms without the big geometry change? If so, I'd be tempted to try them.


coyote,

Yes it is billet aluminium but I'm not too sure of the weight... I was hoping someone could also help me out on that one.

This is all the info I can find on them... http://www.stance-usa.com/sus/products/links/frs-lca

It seems these are the only ones they offer... But adjustable suspension should allow for the drop.

Also, what is the problem with no dust covers? (I'm a noob to Control Arms)

coyote 04-15-2013 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funky Fresh (Post 865888)
Also, what is the problem with no dust covers? (I'm a noob to Control Arms)

It's no bigger, I'd just buy some dust boots as cheap insurance against dirt getting into the rose joint.

MACCAA 04-15-2013 03:51 AM

Rose joints on road cars have never been a really good idea-they're just not designed for that kind of mileage,+ plenty of NVH
Also,think the insurance implications would be pretty negative.
Cheers
Len

Captain Snooze 04-15-2013 03:58 AM

I asked almost the same question here :
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32084

Having had a look (only on their website) at the FIGS lca I decided I will go with them when they become available. (Their email said hopefully this month.)
http://shopfigs.com/v1/index.php?rou...product_id=170
Nice thing about the FIGS is you can do the coarse adjustment once with the inbound adjuster then do fine adjusting without geometry changes with the outboard adjusters.

The Stance lca lowers the ride height. This may or may not be a good thing depending on application.

The Whiteline lca look awesome (billet aluminium) but there is no due date for them.

Captain Snooze 04-15-2013 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MACCAA (Post 865958)
Also,think the insurance implications would be pretty negative.

What insurance implication are those?

Funky Fresh 04-15-2013 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MACCAA (Post 865958)
Rose joints on road cars have never been a really good idea-they're just not designed for that kind of mileage,+ plenty of NVH
Also,think the insurance implications would be pretty negative.
Cheers
Len

The problem I have is I have recently lowered my car (coilovers) and now I have a lot of negative camber at the rear wheels because the 86/BRZ's do not have rear camber adjustments (even after an alignment). Meaning I will get a lot of tyre wear.

Plus I have never heard anything about insurance implications for Control Arms. Do you know this from experience?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze (Post 865964)
Having had a look (only on their website) at the FIGS lca I decided I will go with them when they become available. (Their email said hopefully this month.)
http://shopfigs.com/v1/index.php?rou...product_id=170
Nice thing about the FIGS is you can do the coarse adjustment once with the inbound adjuster then do fine adjusting without geometry changes with the outboard adjusters.

Thanks I'll check them out

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze (Post 865964)
The Stance lca lowers the ride height. This may or may not be a good thing depending on application.

The Stance LCA wont be a problem for me because my coilovers are full adjustable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze (Post 865964)
The Whiteline lca look awesome (billet aluminium) but there is no due date for them.

and lastly... There is a US site that is already selling the Whiteline LCA so I petty sure that they are already available. And yes they to look awesome! Here is the link...

http://ft86speedfactory.com/whitelin...l-arm-626.html

OmarGC 04-15-2013 05:34 AM

I like the stance's few guys I know have them and love them. The added suspension travel while still being pretty low is nice. I know build quality from I seen looks great, and I'm not too big of a fan of cusco products.

If you want the absolute best option for rear control arms and have the coin to spend... Contact @Hancha Group. Hands down, best.

Captain Snooze 04-15-2013 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funky Fresh (Post 866011)
and lastly... There is a US site that is already selling the Whiteline LCA so I petty sure that they are already available. And yes they to look awesome! Here is the link...
http://ft86speedfactory.com/whitelin...l-arm-626.html

Yes, they are selling them but they are not in stock.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmarGC (Post 866016)
If you want the absolute best option for rear control arms and have the coin to spend... Contact @Hancha Group. Hands down, best.

What do you base that statement upon? I have read their thread/blog and I do not doubt they are a quality item but why are they the "best"? They suffer from the same design limitation as others of having inboard adjusters.

OmarGC 04-15-2013 06:07 AM

Materials...


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