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FA20Club.com 04-14-2013 03:55 PM

FA20CLUB Turbo Kit Results Are In...60 Trim Impressive
 
5.3PSI= 286HP 212TQ On the STOCK Exhaust

Finally free'd up some time in the schedule to get afew pull in on the kit we installed last week. promising baseline. Thing about dropping the wastegate spring lower and adding boost solenoid to ramp the boost in. Current methos was timing based control I applied to allow the car to hook up a bit better on the street and then apply the adv later in the rpm once its rolling to keep here screaming. this was with the Garrett 60 trim which still spools remarkable well. soon to be So for all those who think the t3/t4 wont spool quick enough think again. With any of the smaller turbo option i can easily see much lower spool times in comparison to the 60 trim which is almost instantaneous on the street considering your are always pretty much somewhere in the 3500-400 rpm range when driving around. When you hammer this thing it takes off right away no excessive power delay. Which works well for those looking for a kit that performance well on a street car without breaking the 4K budget.


Wont be doing any additional testing for a couple weeks we have a few of these already on order so its back to the fab table for us.

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mashal 04-14-2013 03:56 PM

Ooooooooohhhhhhh

Frs300 04-14-2013 04:04 PM

looks good. nice numbers on 5.3 psi

FA20Club.com 04-14-2013 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Frs300 (Post 864773)
looks good. nice numbers on 5.3 psi

got some goodies for you coming in tuesday. im gonna start a build thread for you setup too

lexusb3 04-14-2013 04:08 PM

This kit is truley a work of art i couldnt ask for better results!!!This car is a animal on the streets.. @FA20Club.com thanks again for all the help and puting this kit together best investment so far!!!

Sportsguy83 04-14-2013 04:24 PM

Very clean and simple pipe routing.

Frs300 04-14-2013 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FA20Club.com (Post 864778)
got some goodies for you coming in tuesday. im gonna start a build thread for you setup too


i cant wait to see this build thread...i have a stack of goodies at the house here as well. brakes,hood,trd canards, short shifter,shark fin, and eibach Pro-Plus kit(springs and sway bars)

lexusb3 04-14-2013 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frs300 (Post 864812)
i cant wait to see this build thread...i have a stack of goodies at the house here as well. brakes,hood,trd canards, short shifter,shark fin, and eibach Pro-Plus kit(springs and sway bars)

your putting too much pressure on me with all these goodies i need to step it up lol...

FA20Club.com 04-14-2013 04:53 PM

ship them down ill have the guys install them for you.

Frs300 04-14-2013 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FA20Club.com (Post 864861)
ship them down ill have the guys install them for you.

210lbs of parts lol

FA20Club.com 04-14-2013 05:13 PM

lol ill see if i can arrange some cheap transport for it. its not a long distance just allota weight

Frs300 04-14-2013 05:14 PM

its all good give me something to do in the garage

JoeBoxer 04-14-2013 05:19 PM

Very nice numbers for such low psi, great work as always.

lbroskee 04-14-2013 05:29 PM

Looks amazing. Any idea how to squeeze some extra Torque? I think the AVO kit is around 280 hp and ~245 tq, but ur cheaper, master tuner, local, and can install for a decent peice from what lexusb3 told me, plus i already keep shoppin from you anyway

Deadspool 04-14-2013 05:29 PM

Assuming E85?

This could be the perfect entry level turbo kit.

JoeBoxer 04-14-2013 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadspool (Post 864909)
Assuming E85?

This could be the perfect entry level turbo kit.

I would hope they would have specified e85 if that was the fuel used, with e85 i would expect 10+ psi also.

Sportsguy83 04-14-2013 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadspool (Post 864909)
Assuming E85?

This could be the perfect entry level turbo kit.

E85 is not needed at 5 psi. E85 does not make more HP. The advantage E85 provides is the ability to prevent detonation at higher PSI, thus allowing 20+ psi to be run on stock motor.

FA20Club.com 04-14-2013 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lbroskee (Post 864908)
Looks amazing. Any idea how to squeeze some extra Torque? I think the AVO kit is around 280 hp and ~245 tq, but ur cheaper, master tuner, local, and can install for a decent peice from what lexusb3 told me, plus i already keep shoppin from you anyway

run a smaller turbo like the 57 or the 50 trim for more tq. larger turbos will have a wide variance between hp & tq. this is a great combo in my mind cause i can make good top end power and not torch my stock clutch with too much tq and tire spin. what you have to remember is tq is what creates engine limits no HP

FA20Club.com 04-14-2013 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadspool (Post 864909)
Assuming E85?

This could be the perfect entry level turbo kit.

this was pump gas. no point in running e85 for this power/boost level

Deadspool 04-14-2013 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 864914)
E85 is not needed at 5 psi. E85 does not make more HP. The advantage E85 provides is the ability to prevent detonation at higher PSI, thus allowing 20+ psi to be run on stock motor.

I understand this, But as im working in a country that serves 91 on its best day, 5.3 psi does not answer the volume the engine is receiving.

5lbs on my T28 is not quite the same as 5lbs on my GT35.

I've never worked with an engine at 12.5 compression before, its all touch and go for me. Especially considering the urine we have for fuel on tap.

FA20Club.com 04-14-2013 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 864914)
E85 is not needed at 5 psi. E85 does not make more HP. The advantage E85 provides is the ability to prevent detonation at higher PSI, thus allowing 20+ psi to be run on stock motor.

you notice a decrease in spool time on e85 when tuned properly and an increase in tq because of it. which usually translates to an increase in power. the fuel isnt the difference its what it allows you to do on any level because of the increased margin of error before detonation.

86pro 04-14-2013 05:38 PM

Oh im excited and cant wait. FA20club best investment into my car so far and the best to get to your car . I've never been lead wrong with them. Great work Tony.:clap:

FA20Club.com 04-14-2013 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86pro (Post 864930)
Oh im excited and cant wait. FA20club best investment into my car so far and the best to get to your car . I've never been lead wrong with them. Great work Tony.:clap:

appreciate it Jonathan

Sportsguy83 04-14-2013 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FA20Club.com (Post 864925)
you notice a decrease in spool time on e85 when tuned properly and an increase in tq because of it. which usually translates to an increase in power. the fuel isnt the difference its what it allows you to do on any level because of the increased margin of error before detonation.

Thanks for the further explanation. I still think at 5 psi there would not be much difference, the benefits would clearly show at higher psi correct?

FA20Club.com 04-14-2013 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadspool (Post 864924)
I understand this, But as im working in a country that serves 91 on its best day, 5.3 psi does not answer the volume the engine is receiving.

5lbs on my T28 is not quite the same as 5lbs on my GT35.

I've never worked with an engine at 12.5 compression before, its all touch and go for me. Especially considering the urine we have for fuel on tap.

if your fuel quality is that poor one of the smaller trim turbos will work best along with ethanol if its readily available but i still dont think its absolutely necessary to run ethanol right off the get go with a proper tune.

Frs300 04-14-2013 05:57 PM

meth injection :burnrubber:

lexusb3 04-14-2013 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86pro (Post 864930)
Oh im excited and cant wait. FA20club best investment into my car so far and the best to get to your car . I've never been lead wrong with them. Great work Tony.:clap:

AGREED!!!:clap:

FA20Club.com 04-14-2013 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 864965)
Thanks for the further explanation. I still think at 5 psi there would not be much difference, the benefits would clearly show at higher psi correct?

honestly i think its depends on the power its making at that level. i would normally not think to try it but with what this thing made at that level i might take a shot at it LOL. but you are correct that at higher levels the gains would be much more visible

FA20Club.com 04-14-2013 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frs300 (Post 864974)
meth injection :burnrubber:

we already had a tune done before for meth a few months back on a NA setup now we might be tempted to try it on a FI setup.

Frs300 04-14-2013 06:08 PM

dont be tempted just do it....you can use my car

did you have it ecu controlled?

SmsAlSuwaidi 04-14-2013 08:06 PM

+1 for meth injection ! Considering I want to push more psi(when I do get a kit) but I know 91 would limit me !

OmarGC 04-14-2013 08:39 PM

Looks laggy as hell

lbroskee 04-14-2013 09:26 PM

@lexusb3, what trim t3/t4 did you go with for the setup?

pixel67 04-14-2013 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmarGC (Post 865225)
Looks laggy as hell

Wow, and "Omar the great" blesses us with a truly clairvoyant post of time travel from the great land of Illinois, where the ability to deduce lag from a hand full of still frame photos and a blurry dyno is a gift passed down from generation to generation...

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OmarGC 04-14-2013 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pixel67 (Post 865336)
Wow, and "Omar the great" blesses us with a truly clairvoyant post of time travel from the great land of Illinois, where the ability to deduce lag from a hand full of still frame photos and a blurry dyno is a gift passed down from generation to generation...

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

Actually I'm blessing you from the richest country in the world... Lol. But actually read the graph

SmsAlSuwaidi 04-14-2013 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmarGC (Post 865354)
Actually I'm blessing you from the richest country in the world... Lol. But actually read the graph

And you should read the post because he clearly states that a smaller trim turbo would be better, he justifies the reason for such RPM range

pixel67 04-14-2013 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmarGC (Post 865354)
Actually I'm blessing you from the richest country in the world... Lol. But actually read the graph

You have to be data logging to truly quantify turbo lag.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

cmss2000 04-14-2013 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lbroskee (Post 865302)
@lexusb3, what trim t3/t4 did you go with for the setup?

He has the big one, the 60 trim.

rusty959 04-14-2013 10:20 PM

I think you guys are forgetting the other things e85 allows such as more timing. If e85 only allowed for more boost the NA guys wouldnt be running it.

lexusb3 04-14-2013 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lbroskee (Post 865302)
@lexusb3, what trim t3/t4 did you go with for the setup?

yes 60trim


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